<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1mtxs7jztn027d9cylej99hltqq9vq84uxm80zl4naxafd9hpxqwsj9g5zm</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1mtxs7jztn027d9cylej99hltqq9vq84uxm80zl4naxafd9hpxqwsj9g5zm</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-20&#xA;📝 Original message:If you absolutely want a name for some small unit (which may be&#xA;valuable, not knocking that part of the idea), please use anything&#xA;other than &#34;bits&#34;, which is already a massively overloaded term that&#xA;will confuse the hell out of people:&#xA;&#xA;Harddrive costs measured in &#34;bits per gigabyte&#34;?&#xA;An itunes movie download that costs 200,000 bits and takes 804.2&#xA;megabytes of space?&#xA;Or a 10-megabit internet connection costing 10,000,000 bits per month?&#xA;&#xA;It&#39;s especially bad given that bitcoin will likely be adopted first&#xA;for online use, where the competing (and more recognized) meaning of&#xA;&#34;bit&#34; is most prevalent.&#xA;&#xA;Not to mention the overlap within bitcoin itself, with people already&#xA;using &#34;millibits&#34; in conversation as a shorthand for mBTC. Hence one&#xA;new &#34;bit&#34; is exactly 1/1000 of the old &#34;millibit&#34;.&#xA;&#xA;Make something up if you have to, or just use satoshis.&#xA;&#xA;On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Tamas Blummer &lt;tamas at bitsofproof.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; People on this list are mostly engineers who have no problem dealing with&#xA;&gt; magnitudes and have rather limited empathy for people who have a problem&#xA;&gt; with them.&#xA;&gt; They also tend to think, that because they invented money 2.0 they would not&#xA;&gt; need to care of finance’s or people’s current customs.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The importance of their decisions in these questions will fade as people&#xA;&gt; already use wallets other than the core.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Bring this particular discussion elsewhere, to the wallet developer.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; BTW the topic was discussed here several times, you have my support and Jeff&#xA;&gt; Garzik’s.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Regards,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Tamas Blummer&#xA;&gt; http://bitsofproof.com&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On 20.04.2014, at 15:15, Rob Golding &lt;rob.golding at astutium.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The average person is not going to be confident that the prefix they&#xA;&gt; are using is the correct one,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The use of any &#39;prefix&#39; is one of choice and entirely unnecessary, and there&#xA;&gt; are already established &#39;divisions&#39; in u/mBTC for those that feel they need&#xA;&gt; to use such things.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; people WILL send 1000x more or less than&#xA;&gt; intended if we go down this road,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Exceptionally unlikely - I deal every day with currencies with 0, 2 and 3&#xA;&gt; dp&#39;s in amount ranging from &#39;under 1 whole unit&#39; to tens of thousands - Not&#xA;&gt; once in 20 years has anyone ever &#39;sent&#39; more or less than intended - oh,&#xA;&gt; they&#39;ve &#39;intended&#39; to underpay just fine, but never *unintended*.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I propose that users are offered a preference to denominate the&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin currency in a unit called a bit. Where one bitcoin (BTC)&#xA;&gt; equals one million bits (bits) and one bit equals 100 satoshis.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I propose that for people unable to understand what a bitcoin is, they can&#xA;&gt; just use satoshi&#39;s and drop this entire proposal.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Rob&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O&#39;Reilly Book&#xA;&gt; &#34;Graph Databases&#34; is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their&#xA;&gt; applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,&#xA;&gt; this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O&#39;Reilly Book&#xA;&gt; &#34;Graph Databases&#34; is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their&#xA;&gt; applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,&#xA;&gt; this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>