<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-18&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Mark Friedenbach &lt;mark at friedenbach.org&gt;&#xA;wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; The whole point is getting out in front of the need, to prevent&#xA;&gt;&gt; significant negative impact to users when blocks are consistently full.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; To do that, you need to (a) plan forward, in order to (b) set a hard fork&#xA;&gt;&gt; date in the future.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Or alternatively, fix the reasons why users would have negative&#xA;&gt; experiences with full blocks, chiefly:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;   * Get safe forms of replace-by-fee and child-pays-for-parent finished&#xA;&gt; and in 0.12.&#xA;&gt;   * Develop cross-platform libraries for managing micropayment channels,&#xA;&gt; and get wallet authors to adopt&#xA;&gt;   * Use fidelity bonds, solvency proofs, and other tricks to minimize the&#xA;&gt; risk of already deployed off-chain solutions as an interim measure until:&#xA;&gt;   * Deploy soft-fork changes for truly scalable solutions like Lightning&#xA;&gt; Network.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Not raising the block size limit does not mean doing nothing to solve the&#xA;&gt; problem.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;This is a long, unreasonable list of work.  None of this exists and it&#xA;equates to &#34;upgrade all wallets and websites everywhere&#34;  It requires all&#xA;exchanges, payment processors, merchants, etc. to  - basically everybody&#xA;but miners - to update.&#xA;&#xA;It is a far, far larger amount of work to write, test and deploy than&#xA;simply increasing the block size limit.&#xA;&#xA;Think through roll-out of these ambitious suggestions, before suggesting as&#xA;an alternative!&#xA;&#xA;Not a realistic alternative except in an alternate universe where (a)&#xA;developer work at all companies is cost free, plus (b) we can pause the&#xA;business universe while we wait for The Perfect Solution.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150618/6a902283/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>