<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-08&#xA;📝 Original message:&gt;&#xA;&gt;  * Though there are many proposals floating around which could&#xA;&gt; significantly decrease block propagation latency, none of them are&#xA;&gt; implemented today.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;With a 20mb cap, miners still have the option of the soft limit.&#xA;&#xA;I would actually be quite surprised if there were no point along the road&#xA;from 1mb to 20mb where miners felt a need to throttle their block sizes&#xA;artificially, for the exact reason you point out: propagation delays.&#xA;&#xA;But we don&#39;t *need* to have fancy protocol upgrades implemented right now.&#xA;All we need is to demolish one bottleneck (the hard cap) so we can then&#xA;move on and demolish the next one (whatever that is, probably faster&#xA;propagation). Scaling is a series of walls we punch through as we encounter&#xA;them. One down, onto the next. We don&#39;t have to tackle them all&#xA;simultaneously.&#xA;&#xA;FWIW I don&#39;t think the GFW just triggers packet loss, these days. It&#39;s&#xA;blocked port 8333 entirely.&#xA;&#xA; * I&#39;d very much like to see someone working on better scaling&#xA;&gt; technology ... I know StrawPay is working on development,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;So this request is already satisfied, isn&#39;t it? As you point out, expecting&#xA;more at this stage in development is unreasonable, there&#39;s nothing for&#xA;anyone to experiment with or commit to.&#xA;&#xA;They have code here, by the way:&#xA;&#xA;   https://github.com/strawpay&#xA;&#xA;You can find their fork of MultiBit HD, their implementation library, etc.&#xA;They&#39;ve contributed patches and improvements to the payment channels code&#xA;we wrote.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt;  * I&#39;d like to see some better conclusions to the discussion around&#xA;&gt; long-term incentives within the system.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;What are your thoughts on using assurance contracts to fund network&#xA;security?&#xA;&#xA;I don&#39;t *know* if hashing assurance contracts (HACs) will work. But I don&#39;t&#xA;know they won&#39;t work either. And right now I&#39;m pretty sure that plain old&#xA;fee pressure won&#39;t work. Demand doesn&#39;t outstrip supply forever - people&#xA;find substitutes.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150508/431f2412/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>