<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2012-05-02&#xA;📝 Original message:I think it&#39;s perfectly reasonable to debate ordering.  I personally don&#39;t&#xA;think Armory should be up front, because it&#39;s not intended for beginners.&#xA; How&#39;s that for honesty?  I don&#39;t think anyone is trying to game the system&#xA;right now, I think we&#39;re trying to come up with a reasonable mechanism for&#xA;appealing to new users and get the community more connected.   And make&#xA;sure everyone understands the system.&#xA;&#xA;On the other hand, perhaps it&#39;s better to take the acceptable 80% solution,&#xA;and revise it over time...&#xA;&#xA;Amir, I don&#39;t have access to the page.  I&#39;ve never been able to view it.&#xA; Changing my hosts file doesn&#39;t seem to do anything.  Can you just forward&#xA;me the text?  I&#39;ll send you an approval email.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Amir Taaki &lt;zgenjix at yahoo.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; This discussion about ordering is absolutely retarded. Once the list fills&#xA;&gt; up, then it won&#39;t matter. For now I&#39;m deciding the ordering with Bitcoin-Qt&#xA;&gt; first and the others ordered however. That was nobody can try to game the&#xA;&gt; system (it remains unexploitable).&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; If there are no objections, then I am going to merge this branch. The&#xA;&gt; forum thread is divulging into a mess all over the place, and this&#xA;&gt; conversation can go on forever discussing the silly fine details:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Bikeshed_Anti-PatternProblem:&#xA;&gt; You suggest creating something new for your hackerspace, like a&#xA;&gt; bikeshed.  But now all anyone will discuss is its colour. No bikeshed&#xA;&gt; will be built.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Armory &amp; MultiBit, are you OK with that description? I will check with&#xA;&gt; ThomasV about Electrum.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ________________________________&#xA;&gt; From: Gary Rowe &lt;g.rowe at froot.co.uk&gt;&#xA;&gt; To: &#34;bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#34; &lt;&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&gt;&#xA;&gt; Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:34 PM&#xA;&gt; Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; How about keeping it simple?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-Qt&#xA;&gt; * Requires the entire blockchain&#xA;&gt; * Standalone client&#xA;&gt; * Designed for continuous operation&#xA;&gt; * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer&#xA;&gt; * Developed in C&#xA;&gt; * Website: https://bitcoin.org&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; MultiBit&#xA;&gt; * Requires a reduced blockchain&#xA;&gt; * Standalone client&#xA;&gt; * Designed for occasional use&#xA;&gt; * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer&#xA;&gt; * Developed in Java&#xA;&gt; * Website: http://multibit.org&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Armory&#xA;&gt; * Requires the entire blockchain&#xA;&gt; * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt&#xA;&gt; * Designed for occasional use&#xA;&gt; * Available for Windows (64-bit only), Mac, Linux (self-build)&#xA;&gt; * Developed in Python&#xA;&gt; * Website: http://bitcoinarmory.com/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Electrum&#xA;&gt; * Requires no blockchain&#xA;&gt; * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server)&#xA;&gt; * Designed for occasional use&#xA;&gt; * Available for Windows, Linux (self-build)&#xA;&gt; * Developed in Python&#xA;&gt; * Website: http://ecdsa.org/electrum/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin Wallet (Android client)&#xA;&gt; * Requires a reduced blockchain&#xA;&gt; * Standalone client&#xA;&gt; * Designed for occasional use on mobile&#xA;&gt; * Available for Android only&#xA;&gt; * Developed in Java&#xA;&gt; * Website:&#xA;&gt; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&amp;hl=en&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On 2 May 2012 20:25, Amir Taaki &lt;zgenjix at yahoo.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with group emails,&#xA;&gt; we&#39;ll be having a conversation then someone will click reply instead of&#xA;&gt; group reply and the convo will go on for a while. Eventually I&#39;ll realise&#xA;&gt; the persons are missing and add them back in.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do reply all&#xA;&gt; involves clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking Reply All. Normally I&#xA;&gt; instead go through the steps of reply, delete To, re-enter bitco... select&#xA;&gt; drop down, click send.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I&#xA;&gt; exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I&#xA;&gt; don&#39;t get the same email again.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;----- Original Message -----&#xA;&gt; &gt;From: Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at exmulti.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;To: grarpamp &lt;grarpamp at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;Cc: bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; &gt;Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM&#xA;&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp &lt;grarpamp at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Try &#34;Reply to All&#34;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; That puts the sender in &#39;to&#39; and list in &#39;cc&#39;,&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; which dupes to the sender and eventually&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; blows out the to and cc lines as everyone&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; chimes in and doesn&#39;t trim. &#39;reply to&#39; solves&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#34;Reply-To&#34; Munging Considered Harmful&#xA;&gt; &gt;http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;--&#xA;&gt; &gt;Jeff Garzik&#xA;&gt; &gt;exMULTI, Inc.&#xA;&gt; &gt;jgarzik at exmulti.com&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; &gt;Live Security Virtual Conference&#xA;&gt; &gt;Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today&#39;s security and&#xA;&gt; &gt;threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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