<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1f2nvlx49er5c7sqa43src6ssyp6snd4qwvtkwm5avc2l84cs84esecrwet</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1f2nvlx49er5c7sqa43src6ssyp6snd4qwvtkwm5avc2l84cs84esecrwet</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-09&#xA;📝 Original message:On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Justus Ranvier &lt;justusranvier at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; If the security of the network depends on a broken incentive model,&#xA;&gt; then fix the design of the network so that economics works for you&#xA;&gt; instead of against you.&#xA;&#xA;Who says anything about a broken incentive model. You&#39;ve made past&#xA;claims about resource requirements that I think made no sense and then&#xA;failed to defend them when they were challenge.&#xA;&#xA;With suitable software improvements running a full node could be done&#xA;in as little as a few gigabytes in disk space (e.g. cost 25-50 cents),&#xA;and as 50-100kbit/sec bandwidth in and out ongoing, and a moderate&#xA;amount of ram. Power costs are already just a few cents per month.  By&#xA;far the greatest cost is the figuring out and setting up part, which&#xA;bundling could fix. The exact resources could be tunable to what the&#xA;users are willing and able to contribute.&#xA;&#xA;If improved marginal security and privacy in addition to supporting&#xA;the network is not enough incentive to overcome costs like these then&#xA;Bitcoin is already doomed.  I think that fundamental costs aren&#39;t an&#xA;issue at all, just implementation warts and education are.&#xA;&#xA;Part of asking the question is feeling out which improvements need to&#xA;happen first, and what the prospects of getting the bundling going&#xA;once those improvements are made.</html></oembed>