<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-07&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 06:21:50PM +0200, Jorge Timón wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Gavin Andresen &lt;gavinandresen at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; I would very much like to find some concrete course of action that we can&#xA;&gt; &gt; come to consensus on. Some compromise so we can tell entrepreneurs &#34;THIS is&#xA;&gt; &gt; how much transaction volume the main Bitcoin blockchain will be able to&#xA;&gt; &gt; support over the next eleven years.&#34;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Mhmm, I hadn&#39;t thought about this. This makes sense and actually&#xA;&gt; explains the urgency on taking a decision better than anything else&#xA;&gt; I&#39;ve heard.&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;ve spent a lot of time talking to companies about this, and the&#xA;problem is telling them that isn&#39;t actually very useful; knowing the&#xA;supply side of the equation isn&#39;t all that useful if you don&#39;t know the&#xA;demand side. Problem is we don&#39;t really have a good handle on what&#xA;Bitcoin will be used for in the future, or even for that matter, what&#xA;it&#39;s actually being used for right now.&#xA;&#xA;As we saw with Satoshidice before and quite possibly will see with smart&#xA;contracts (escrows, futures, etc) it&#39;s easy for a relatively small&#xA;number of use cases to drive a significant amount of transaction volume.&#xA;Yet, as Wladimir and others point out, the fundemental underlying&#xA;architecture of the blockchain has inherently poor O(n^2) scaling, so&#xA;there&#39;s always some level of demand where it breaks, and/or incentivizes&#xA;actors in the space to push up against &#34;safety stops&#34; like soft&#xA;blocksize limits and get them removed.&#xA;&#xA;Note how the response previously to bumping up against soft policy&#xA;limits was highly public calls(1) at the first hint of touble: &#34;Mike&#xA;Hearn: Soft block size limit reached, action required by YOU&#34;&#xA;&#xA;1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149668.0&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;000000000000000002761482983864328320badf24d137101fab9a5861a59d30&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 650 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150507/e4fcb555/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>