<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1tfk373zg9dnmtvxnpnq7s2dkdgj37rwfj3yrwld7830qltmv8qps8rfq0n</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1tfk373zg9dnmtvxnpnq7s2dkdgj37rwfj3yrwld7830qltmv8qps8rfq0n</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-05-12&#xA;📝 Original message:On Friday 12 May 2017 10:22:14 PM Peter Todd wrote:&#xA;&gt; nVersion signaling is already technically unenforceable, in the sense that&#xA;&gt; we don&#39;t have good ways of ensuring miners actually adopt the rules&#xA;&gt; they&#39;re claiming to signal. Equally, it&#39;s users who ultimately adopt&#xA;&gt; rules, not miners, and attempting to pay miners to signal certain bits&#xA;&gt; will further confuse this point.&#xA;&#xA;This BIP doesn&#39;t change that. Enforcement remains primarily by users.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Quite likely the outcome of users trying to anonymously pay anonymous&#xA;&gt; miners to signal certain bits will be the complete breakdown of the&#xA;&gt; honesty of the nVersion signalling system, currently enforced only by&#xA;&gt; &#34;gentlemans agreement&#34;.&#xA;&#xA;You assume users will pay for signalling of softforks prematurely. So long as &#xA;it waits until deployment of the softfork is widespread, this risk is minimal. &#xA;At worst, it creates risks similar to a UASF. So long as UASF is the &#xA;alternative, this way seems strictly better.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Also, as an aside, this &#34;specification&#34; again shows the inadequacy and&#xA;&gt; unreadability of English language specifications. I&#39;d strongly suggest you&#xA;&gt; delete it and instead mark the &#34;reference implementation&#34; as the&#xA;&gt; specification.&#xA;&#xA;How so?&#xA;&#xA;On Friday 12 May 2017 10:17:30 PM ZmnSCPxj wrote:&#xA;&gt; Minor editorial nitpick, this paragraph is repeated, maybe one of these&#xA;&gt; should be Testnet?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; For Bitcoin &#39;&#39;&#39;mainnet&#39;&#39;&#39;, the BIP8 &#39;&#39;&#39;starttime&#39;&#39;&#39; will be TBD (Epoch&#xA;&gt; timestamp TBD) and BIP8 &#39;&#39;&#39;timeout&#39;&#39;&#39; will be TBD (Epoch timestamp TBD).&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; For Bitcoin &#39;&#39;&#39;mainnet&#39;&#39;&#39;, the BIP8 &#39;&#39;&#39;starttime&#39;&#39;&#39; will be TBD (Epoch&#xA;&gt; timestamp TBD) and BIP8 &#39;&#39;&#39;timeout&#39;&#39;&#39; will be TBD (Epoch timestamp TBD).&#xA;&#xA;Fixed, thanks.&#xA;&#xA;Luke</html></oembed>