<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-07&#xA;📝 Original message:On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; If the incentives for running a node don&#39;t weight up against the&#xA;&gt; cost/difficulty using a full node yourself for a majority of people in the&#xA;&gt; ecosystem, I would argue that there is a problem. As Bitcoin&#39;s fundamental&#xA;&gt; improvement over other systems is the lack of need for trust, I believe&#xA;&gt; that with increased adoption should also come an increased (in absolute&#xA;&gt; terms) incentive for people to use a full node. I&#39;m seeing the opposite&#xA;&gt; trend, and that is worrying IMHO.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Are you saying that unless the majority of people in the ecosystem decide&#xA;to trust nothing but the genesis block hash (decide to run a full node)&#xA;there is a problem?&#xA;&#xA;If so, then we do have a fundamental difference of opinion, but I&#39;ve&#xA;misunderstood how you think about trust/centralization/convenience&#xA;tradeoffs in the past.&#xA;&#xA;I believe people in the Bitcoin ecosystem will choose different tradeoffs,&#xA;and I believe that is OK-- people should be free to make those tradeoffs.&#xA;&#xA;And given that the majority of people in the ecosystem were deciding that&#xA;using a centralized service or an SPV-level-security wallet was better even&#xA;two or three years ago when blocks were tiny (I&#39;d have to go back and dig&#xA;up number-of-full-nodes and number-of-active-wallets at the big web-wallet&#xA;providers, but I bet there were an order of magnitude more people using&#xA;centralized services than running full nodes even back then), I firmly&#xA;believe that block size has very little to do with the decision to run a&#xA;full node or not.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;--&#xA;Gavin Andresen&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150807/1aaa747d/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>