<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-09-28&#xA;📝 Original message:I think three things need to happen:&#xA;&#xA;1) Stop pretending that &#34;everyone must agree to make consensus rule&#xA;changes.&#34; &#34;Rough consensus&#34; is what we&#39;ve always gone with, and is good&#xA;enough.&#xA;&#xA;2) Mr. Todd (or somebody) needs to write up a risk/benefit security&#xA;tradeoff analysis doo-hickey document and publish it. I&#39;m reasonably&#xA;confident that the risks to SPV nodes can be mitigated (e.g. by deploying&#xA;mempool-only first, before the soft fork rolls out), but as somebody who&#xA;has only been moderately paying attention, BETTER COMMUNICATION is needed.&#xA;What should SPV wallet authors be doing right now, if anything? Once the&#xA;soft fork starts to roll out or activates, what do miners need to be aware&#xA;of? SPV wallet authors?&#xA;&#xA;3) I agree CLTV is ready to roll out, that there is rough consensus a soft&#xA;fork is a reasonable way to do it, and that it should happen ASAP.&#xA;&#xA;On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; There is *no* consensus on using a soft fork to deploy this feature. It&#xA;&gt; will result in the same problems as all the other soft forks - SPV wallets&#xA;&gt; will become less reliable during the rollout period. I am against that, as&#xA;&gt; it&#39;s entirely avoidable.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Until then, as there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 1) Drop the &#34;everyone must agree to make changes&#34; idea that people here&#xA;&gt; like to peddle, and do it loudly, so everyone in the community is correctly&#xA;&gt; informed&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 2) Do nothing&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-- &#xA;--&#xA;Gavin Andresen&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150928/066eb127/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>