<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub14jv7tj33yt72yk8mljmvkck3p4xm5s3mxfpj289up38qqsn9dhkqeh00t4</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub14jv7tj33yt72yk8mljmvkck3p4xm5s3mxfpj289up38qqsn9dhkqeh00t4</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-06&#xA;📝 Original message:Hi Mike&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Not sure if you&#39;ve seen it, but here is how we do NFC right now&#xA;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOMIG9JUY8 with XBTerminal.&#xA;For now this is just an NDEF URI message with Bitcoin URI inside, and then&#xA;transaction itself propagated to the network by the phone using it&#39;s own&#xA;Internet connection. Far not ideal, but even this is supported only by&#xA;Andreas&#39; Wallet, so we cannot move ahead alot really until other wallets&#xA;will have some support in this area.&#xA;As you see - it&#39;s taking just few seconds, most of which is manual payment&#xA;confirmation. Btw, ignore my first screen tap, where I&#39;m selecting wallets&#xA;- it&#39;s an unlikely thing to happen IRL to have several wallets installed at&#xA;the same time.&#xA;&#xA;​Also, I think many people may not know about Oyster cards, so this might&#xA;need little bit of explanation. And btw, have you been to London lately?&#xA;Oyster readers now accept contactless cards directly along with Oyster&#xA;cards itself. I wonder if eventually in future we could add bitcoin support&#xA;into that system directly, without hardware replacements.&#xA;&#xA;I cannot put much into the actual protocol discussion, but I&#39;m happy to&#xA;provide feedback on the side of actual POS implementation needed and&#xA;testbase if required.&#xA;&#xA;Have an ​idea - it&#39;s a good thing to cap confirmationless payments, but the&#xA;actual cap value definition can be tricky considering Bitcoin volatility.&#xA;Inless you want to tie it to some external price definition thirdparty&#xA;service it could be tied to transaction fees. I mean - if with Bitcoin v0.9&#xA;transaction fees will become really floating, and it should eventually&#xA;reach equilibrium that will reflect some real world value. Probably a tiny&#xA;value, but probably also rather stable value. So confirmationless payment&#xA;cap may be defined as &lt;current_average_transaction_fee&gt;x10000.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140306/38cc0863/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>