<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1s4lj77xuzcu7wy04afcr487f0r3za0f8n2775xrpkld2sv639mjqsd44kw</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-07-23&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On 7/23/2015 5:17 AM, Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; they will simply advance the front and start another battle, because&#xA;&gt; &gt; their true hidden faction is the &#34;not ever side&#34;. Please, Jeff, Gavin,&#xA;&gt; &gt; Mike, show me that I&#39;m wrong on this point. Please, answer my question&#xA;&gt; &gt; this time. If &#34;not now&#34;, then when?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin has all the hash power.  The merkle root has effectively&#xA;&gt; infinite capacity.  We should be asking HOW to scale the supporting&#xA;&gt; information propagation system appropriately, not WHEN to limit the&#xA;&gt; capacity of the primary time-stamping machine.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; We haven&#39;t tried yet.  I can&#39;t answer for the people you asked, but&#xA;&gt; personally I haven&#39;t thought much about when we should declare failure.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Yes! Lets plan for success!&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;d really like to move from &#34;IMPOSSIBLE because...  (electrum hasn&#39;t been&#xA;optimized&#xA;(by the way: you should run on SSDs, LevelDB isn&#39;t designed for spinning&#xA;disks),&#xA;what if the network is attacked?  (attacked HOW???), current p2p network is&#xA;using&#xA;the simplest, stupidest possible block propagation algorithm...)&#34;&#xA;&#xA;... to &#34;lets work together and work through the problems and scale it up.&#34;&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m frankly tired of all the negativity here; so tired of it I&#39;ve decided&#xA;to mostly ignore&#xA;all the debate for a while, not respond to misinformation I see being spread&#xA;(like &#34;miners have some incentive to create slow-to-propagate blocks&#34;),&#xA;work with people like Tom and Mike who have a &#39;lets get it done&#39; attitude,&#xA;and&#xA;focus on what it will take to scale up.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;--&#xA;Gavin Andresen&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150723/9a8c53b6/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>