npub1m5…jgjl3 on Nostr: precisely how do you go about chasing someone off your property without a threat of ...

precisely how do you go about chasing someone off your property without a threat of violence? And, should that threat be an empty threat, or if they refuse, is it moral to follow through?

these people you say shouldn't be deported but should be charged with crimes and sent home, surely you understand that that is worse? would you rather be told to go home, or beaten and then told to go home? Youre getting stuck on the dirtiness of this word "deportation". It simply means to be told to go home. The homelss guy got soup, he got the humane-but-you-still-cant-live-here treatment; the countries they're fleeing to give lots of humanitarian aid to the counries they get sent back to.

Now, either we do the open libertarian thing and we do the "borders shouldn't exist" experiment or we don't. I doubt its going to happen. I like the idea of it, but I understand the "national territories are analogous to private property" argument as well. But for your analogy to work, 1) people have to be sent home even if they're harmless or needy people, of course with sympathies and the help they need to not die, and 2) violence must be implied to deter pedatory opportunists. That seems to be the status quo right now.