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Last Notes npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace You can connect any self-custodial Bitcoin setup you want as a source/destination for our tools. So yes, ultimately we connect Bitcoin that you hold yourself with the rest of the world. 1. Wavecard product works via @nprofile…gs3w , pulling sats from NWC enabled Lightning wallet. 2. LINK product links any onchain address with an IBAN, so that BTC automatically lands in your chosen self-custody. 3. Selling Bitcoin also works from any source: onchain, LN, NWC. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Depends on your tax jurisdiction. Some countries like Germany or Portugal have 0% capital gains on coins held for at least 1 year. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 1. Revolut pushes for custodial services, they want to hold your Bitcoin and your keys. At wavespace we build the platform in a way that works with any Bitcoin setup, and we actively push to self-custody your coins. 2. Revolut charges 2-3x higher total fees when converting Bitcoin. 3. Revolut doesn't allow you to put any name you want on the debit card. 4. Revolut is still mostly a fiat-focused bank. Wavespace is building for the future of money - Bitcoin. The only thing which we're still missing over Revolut is to be able to make third-party EUR transfers. We're actively working to deliver that, too. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Bitcoin is better money. But it's still very much disconnected from daily finances: - How do I pay rent? - How do I buy groceries? - How do I automate savings? Wavespace solves all your banking needs with Bitcoin in one single app. Here is a demo of our newly upgraded platform: https://blossom.primal.net/473392603fc7adb2bf6b1c9445e7b020fe80a31582cd2dc32900095b012122d3.mp4 npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Maybe it’s one and the same person? 🤔 npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Have you claimed your LN address yet?? Satoshi is already taken, but we still have a lot of cool handles available! Comment your wavespace address below, and we'll zap you 1,000 sats! ⚡⚡⚡ https://blossom.primal.net/b4741eeaa5d585b5b1a269756f5ac9aa519159b5d2bdac032b7780868b8551e1.png npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Not yet, but we have all your feature requests noted since our last chat! npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Big news, Bitcoiners! The next chapter of wavespace is live! 🎉 After months of gathering your feedback and building behind the scenes, we’ve just launched a fully redesigned web app that feels more like a modern banking app - but built for self-custodial Bitcoin 🔑 https://blossom.primal.net/9690f84719c35626c667996b08a58edd32e0a1aa2e743804a94b9c3ae7710c39.webp 🔥 WHAT'S NEW? • A brand new look & cleaner UX with one-click access to core tools. • Passwordless login - just email + 6-digit OTP. • LINK - automated BTC purchases directly into self-custody via a dedicated IBAN. • Lightning Addresses - send/receive BTC easily with reusable addresses. • A smarter transaction list that groups, filters, and focuses on Bitcoin movement. • More @nprofile…gs3w features - including 1-click BTC top-ups & sell options. • Missions - gamified milestones and rewards for living on Bitcoin. The upgrade is live now - try it and share your thoughts with us! Thank you for helping us build this together! 🧡 You can find more details about all the new features & upgrades here: https://www.wave.space/blog/introducing-the-next-chapter-of-wave-space npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace That is correct. Interacting with traditional finance rails in Europe is a regulated activity. We need to abide by these rules in order to be able to give you: - a fully working VISA debit card - a personal vIBAN in your own name However, we design our products to work with your self-custody so that you retain the control of your BTC, and do not have to deal with capital being frozen for whatever reason. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace No one is forcing you to be a taxpayer in the jurisdiction with 20% capital gains. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace It's great that you managed to create such a bubble around yourself, where a few basic merchants are enough for your lifestyle. However, it's naive to think that you will get the early majority to live on the Bitcoin standard like this. It's already hard for them to digest the volatility, let alone the lifestyle changes required to be able to pay only in BTC directly. Most people: - shop groceries in supermarkets that take EUR - need to pay for flight tickets/trains/public transport in EUR - need to pay their landlord in EUR - subscribe to services online with EUR - pay taxes in EUR All of that can be done either by holding discretionary EUR balance, or by holding zero EUR and selling at the last possible second via wavespace. Even most avid Bitcoin evangelists end up holding EUR balances they are not proud. We solve for that, and with self-custody at the front. You just refuse to make even one step down from your moral high-ground, posing your highly sacrificial lifestyle as the only way for masses. Which just further distances ordinary people, and actually slows down the adoption. I'm quite sure most Bitcoiners end up holding EUR balances that they are not proud of. We solve for that. This whole shaming of people who still have to interact with legacy finance out of pure need is just so counterproductive. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace I don't know on what planet do you live on where everyone around you accepts BTC directly, but please come to Europe and try living your life where 99% of merchants and landlords want Euros in exchange of goods & services. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace I mean you can keep posting the same ignorant screenshots over again on each post, but it just doesn’t work like that with debit cards. These cards do not create any new fiat in circulation, it’s simply a tool to be able to spend your BTC, when it’s not accepted directly. These cards sell BTC on the merchant’s behalf at the market rate, since they are the ones that want to be paid in fiat. This is just a tool to operate in the legacy world that is lagging behind npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Nope npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 🟠 PHYSICAL WAVECARD IN ACTION! Buying coffee at McDonald’s with self-custodial BTC, powered by @nprofile…jfa8 ‘s @npub19hg…yv9p https://blossom.primal.net/51b11bfdabf650a1c09f7396a39847791a9085f19e3af24192043d97762149fc.mov npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace I suspect Darth posts directly from the future, where there is 100% BTC acceptance on Earth. Gives me hope! https://blossom.primal.net/69771bd94ee934a1f1287cdd5f50bc47b90586e27000d230f361e6fcccea7d6c.gif npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace @nprofile…l0ea tell me one thing. When you go about your day and need to buy some milk, or fill up some gas, do you carry physical fiat shitcoins with you in your pocket? How do you pay? npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace @DarthCoin is our biggest “supporter” from day 1 on Stacker News. Very consistently slandering us on all socials. Here’s a bit more in depth context of our different takes on this matter: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs07hmehrhyvx8xuv79en4yt75rgyxqvellqus0vr0xycg775ykgjqjtyced npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace It can be used globally, including the UK, but we can only accept KYC from EEA citizens or residents. We cannot accept UK residents. So you could be a UK citizen but would need to have residency within Europe npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace DO YOU WANT TO BE SATOSHI NAKAMOTO? It's actually very simple: 1. Order your physical wavecard for €29.99 in BTC on https://wave.space 2. Put any pseudonym you want on it 3. Connect the card to your self-custodial Lightning wallet via NWC Spend BTC from self-custody anywhere in the world. Future is here! https://blossom.primal.net/f777a16e7c2e9b207f4125f43496ce4d7497ada2e1e78a60b67acedf9afc7eac.jpg npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace PHYSICAL WAVECARDS ARE FINALLY HERE! "When physical cards?" has probably been the most frequent request we've heard over 2025. That's why we're super excited to break these news to you: from now on you can order a physical wavecard, delivered straight to your doorstep! THE BENEFITS OF THE PHYSICAL CARD While our virtual cards can already be used in real life via contactless mobile wallets, physical cards carry a number of additional benefits: 💶 ATMs: Withdraw cash in local currency globally (€2 +3% fee passed on at cost) 🌏 Pay anywhere: You can use a physical card in places where contactless methods are not accepted 🕵️ Better privacy: you do not need to rely on third parties (Apple Pay, Curve, Google Pay) that are mediating your virtual card transactions 💳 PRICE: €29.99 in BTC 🎁 LAUNCH OFFER: the first 10 people who order a physical card will get a 100% fee refund, so be quick! Max 1 free card per person. 📦 SHIPPING: free tracked post, or €30 for DHL Express delivery Hold the power of Bitcoin in your hands! Order your wavecard on wavespace today. https://blossom.primal.net/d3d8dbcc72ac3d017da189642a862ccccd3144a42600b097e5308bef3e0102a6.png npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Unfortunately, non-KYC cards are much more limited. Not accepted by as many merchants, not possible to add on mobile wallets, no physical cards as well. And sometimes non-KYC simply means that they won’t ask for details proactively, but they might freeze your balance and still ask for KYC if they don’t like your transactions. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace I realized that, and sent another dm over Iris. Are you able to see that? npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Hey! Could you reach out over support, so we can investigate your issue specifically? Some of our users do use VPN successfully, we haven’t added any specific blocks recently. In fact, we removed one dependency on IP checkers that was blocking private Firefox sessions before. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace You could also define it as "involuntary donations to questionable causes" npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 🟠 NEW: TRANSACTION EXPORTS Whether you're filing for taxes or tracking your budget, you can now export all of your wavespace transactions in a CSV or Excel formats. You will find the tool in your "Account" section. https://blossom.primal.net/4ed3dfb564e95afad42a98a1dedc0cfa24feb5734e46e7b54530ce23cfe8cb75.png npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 1. From user’s perspective, he is spending BTC from his self-custodial Lightning node connected to wavecard via Nostr Wallet Connect. Yes, Bitcoin is sold to fund the purchase, but ONLY because the receiver is not taking Bitcoin. It’s basically selling Bitcoin on behalf of the merchant. If 99%+ of society takes fiat today, how are you supposed to pay for groceries, pay rent, buy tickets? 2. Our users sell Bitcoin not because they want to, but because they don’t have anything else. If you have cash around, you’re essentially shorting Bitcoin. But if you’re all-in BTC, then you have to sell it to live. It doesn’t matter if you sell it to non-KYC gift cards, or you automate it via wavecard, you’re still selling. We’re not trying to deplete people’s stacks. Actually, they stack even their disposable fiat income into BTC, because they are confident that they can spend BTC instantly, and not worry about not being able to pay one way or another. 3. Let’s be realistic here. Our product is not for those Bitcoiners that already went underground. This won’t make them KYC, like it won’t make you KYC. We’re not competing with whatever setup you have to pay for your life. We’re competing with other debit cards that are all KYC’ed regardless, like Revolut. Except, at least we can offer a Bitcoin-only debit card that spends from self-custody and doesn’t require you to hold shitcoins (fiat included). If you’re using debit cards, ours is the best option today. 4. There are already plenty of very smart builders working on the solutions for the inevitable endgame of native Bitcoin payments. We don’t need to exclusively stack all the manpower on this now. The real question is when is this endgame gonna arrive? I think we simply have different assumptions of the fastest path to reach it. It’s not enough to just build native stuff and expect the humanity to choose a dramatically smaller payment network. There’s a huge chasm between the early adopters of Bitcoin and the rest of the humanity. You’re expecting the “stupid” people, as you call it, to suddenly do a 180 on their habits, go fully non-KYC, drop their usual payment methods and live your way. It hasn’t happened and it’s naive to expect that people will choose sacrifice over convenience. This disconnect is actually holding us back. Your way is to be very strict, demanding and educational. Being one person, you have converted tons of people, relatively, but these are early adopters on the long-tail of the distribution. Instead, we come to the majority’s KYC’ed yard, and try to offer the first stepping stone. Something that would at least tick some good boxes: being able to own only good money, put it in self-custody, without changing their habits. That will create a lot more zero-fiat Bitcoiners who will still demand merchants to allow them to pay in Bitcoin directly. Then, we will have a real chance to flip the fiat tables sooner. And lastly, our roadmap does eventually include a native non-KYC Bitcoin payment wallet, so all those debit card users will be able to easily graduate into native payments when there are merchants that take Bitcoin. You’ve been criticizing us since inception on Stacker News, and we do read your stuff. I tried my best to explain our case. Although I won’t change your opinion, I just hope that you can see where we’re coming from and the intentions we have. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace We’re not competing with native Bitcoin payments. Wherever Bitcoin is accepted directly, you should always pay with no intermediaries. And all Bitcoiners still have the duty of persistently orange-pilling merchants, regardless of the payment method used today. You should always ask for paying with Bitcoin. The argument that “if you go to merchant with a VISA card, that merchant will never adopt Bitcoin” is not accurate, because they already get 99% of all payments in fiat. This is a catch-22 situation for Bitcoin acceptance, whereas fiat has the network effect of being accepted 10/10 times. Our assumption is that we can only really compete in a timely manner with the fiat system by piggybacking on its existing rails, and at least creating more reasons for people to own ALL of their capital in Bitcoin TODAY, where 99%+ of merchants still do not accept Bitcoin. There’s a huge gap between early Bitcoin adopters and the rest of the humanity who still sees it as an investment. Most people are scared of Bitcoin, don’t know what can they even do with it beyond allocating a percentage of their “investment portfolio”. The early majority, who are not tinkerers and early adopters like yourself, are looking at this more pragmatically, and will only switch their capital to real money, including even disposable income, if they are confident that they can fund their lifestyle today. These are not the people who will shape their lifestyle on gift cards, cash and 2 random shops that are accepting BTC directly. Meanwhile, the time is ticking, and Bitcoin is being gobbled up by existing centralised power players. Most people are still gonna ignore it until the government endorses it or enforces it. We want more people to hold zero fiat today. If that means that you sell BTC at the last possible second, because your big name grocery shop only takes fiat, that is a fair deal, imo. @nprofile…g9zp we respect your educational material on Bitcoin since ages, and your non-compromising stance on Bitcoin ethics and principles is exemplary, but we’re not the enemy, even though you seem to think so. I can’t see why we can’t: 1. Always educate and ask merchants to accept Bitcoin 2. Pay in Bitcoin if they accept it 3. If they don’t accept it, use wavecard, which at least can tap into your self-custodial BTC, and you don’t need to have fiat laying around. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace SOLD MY BITCOIN… … to buy coffee today with the wavecard 😎 npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Nice catch 😂 npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace We have something similar on the roadmap as well. The wavecard already allows you to spend Bitcoin anywhere globally, by selling it at the last possible second and funding the fist payment for a merchant. You can either connect your LN wallet to spend from self-custody (via NWC) or store BTC on the wavecard custodially. Technically, the custodial BTC balance could be collateralized for a loan that is also then folded back into the same BTC on the card, essentially working like a “boosted” Bitcoin position that is partly spendable without capital gains. We’re on the same mission to not hold any fiat whatsoever, and to automate all liquidations into fiat at the recipient level, so that you, as a Bitcoiner, wouldn’t ever need to even care about any fiat balances. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace wavecard gibt es seit neustem auch als AlbyHub applet! 💳 🐝💨 (Wenn ihr euch über @nprofile…x6g9 anmeldet, findet ihr auch eine sweete kleine Belohnung von 10,000 sats! 🧡 😉) npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Mcdonald’s accepts Bitcoin?? 🤔 #nevent1q…tc9g npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Maybe on the stage? 🤔 https://blossom.primal.net/5f7c00cb21a25e9db17f9904b22e1604a2d0f3b41a07e21ef55d18ea7ca8e405.jpg npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Exactly! Even your disposable fiat income can be swapped to BTC. All you need is to be able to instantly liquidate it in your daily life. So basically: a Bitcoin debit card + a direct bridge with your bank for rent payments and other transfers. Both of which we already provide for Europeans. Bottom line is - there’s no need to hold ANY euros anymore. Which also means that we lower the entry barrier to stack for those that have little to no savings. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 🔥 Europe’s Bitcoiners – it’s game time. We're giving away 210,000 sats this August in the Battle of the Bitcoin Nations 🇪🇺 Rep your country by paying with wavecard® — the more TXs, the bigger your share! Read more: https://www.wave.space/blog/the-battle-of-the-bitcoin-nations-210-000-sats-prize-pool npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Not yet. At the moment the closest option is to add it on your mobile wallet for contactless payments npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Fair enough npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace When the merchant doesn't accept BTC directly, but you still spend your sats with the wavecard: https://blossom.primal.net/81327a025dd3d14b5aa0d3c2096439585df5a164b0a387303b6758b284b76a6b.mp4 npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Thank you for your kind words! We're on a mission to enable more "Zero-Euro Bitcoiners". There's no need to hold any euros, when you can pay with Bitcoin anywhere, even if shops don't accept it directly yet! npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Some argue that Bitcoin is like an IQ test, but it’s much more of an EGO test. It’s never too late, anon. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Potentially, but we do not have any concrete timelines for that. Would need to find a licensed partner in other jurisdictions for issuing debit cards. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Exemplary grassroots action 🧡 It’s so early, and we all have a personal responsibility to orange pill the closest peers around us! npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace ⚡⚡⚡ Lightning is live on wavespace! This major upgrade opens the door to nearly instant and free Bitcoin transactions - built right into your Bitcoin banking and spending experience. Here's how LN improves your experience on wavespace: 🔁 Instant Bitcoin swaps - moving between EUR in your bank and BTC in your Lightning wallet takes seconds now. 🆓 Free Bitcoin withdrawals - No more onchain network fees, Lightning transfers are free both ways! 💳 Instant wavecard® topups - you can now deposit Bitcoin into your wavecard via Lightning and spend it globally! Read more: https://www.wave.space/blog/lightning-is-live-on-wave-space npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace Now that the EU has implemented the MiCA regulation, our expectation is that this framework will not change drastically in the foreseeable future (work on it began in 2018, and it’s only now coming into effect). Therefore, as long as we're MiCA-compliant, we do not anticipate any significant regulatory hurdles in our mission to bridge the gap between Bitcoin and today’s fiat-based world, with or without CBDC. npub1wvspcey72fkea672jymfa28qzlqmlhafv0uzu3zppmtx7mwy5lkscv33pu wavespace 1) Timechain not blockchain 2) Bitcoin not crypto 3) Saving not investing