Guido Günther

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2024-11-03 11:27:12 CET

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for October 24:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_October_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian #gnome #sigxcpu

2024-10-23 17:38:22 CEST

With the fixes made in the last #phosh release and those in flight for 0.43 regarding on screen keyboard, text input, text completion and copy/paste together with small app fixes here and there I'm really starting to enjoy text input on mobile and grab the phone more often although the laptop is nearby.
I consider that a good sign 😃

2024-10-21 11:15:13 CEST

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…and #phosh-osk-stub doesn't want to miss out either:
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/388/877/original/ffbdf301e8df7c8b.png

2024-10-18 23:37:38 CEST

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you can also see @npub1uhd…78wy 's work on improved quick setting in the picture above and here's a quick demo (already landed on main):
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/369/969/original/70e88496dcc7bf06.mp4

2024-10-18 23:32:12 CEST

Eugenio (@npub197v…v7hp) has contributed accent color support to #phosh (we're targeting 0.43.0):
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/369/945/original/cca0c27fa18f8cc1.png

2024-10-18 23:24:10 CEST

By popular demand #phosh-osk-stub now also allows to add plain `alt` and `ctrl` to the terminals shortcuts bar. This makes usage with complex key combos easier (I'm looking at you #emacs):
#LinuxMobile #gtk
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/369/890/original/19a212b0e6036429.mp4

2024-10-14 09:32:11 CEST

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Didn't know #kali has a #phosh variant now too (called "Nethunter pro"). NIce!

2024-10-10 20:48:00 CEST

The OSK panel in mobile settings is becoming more complete. After adding layout selection last cycle, selecting the default text completer is on its way now too. The data is provided by the OSK so new completers are picked up automatically.
#phosh #gtk #LinuxMobile
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/299/031/original/74946d483dc2154d.mp4

2024-10-08 12:10:46 CEST

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Look at the GPU / Waydroid interaction. Looks like a something is off there. Maybe a wrong format specifier but could also be outdated mesa in the image)? Could very much be device dependent. Maybe someone can confirm it doesn't happen on e.g. L5 of PP ? (or maybe it does which would also tell us something).
(you can likely take phosh/phoc out of the equation here (e.g. by checking with Weston)).

2024-10-01 15:22:39 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for September 24:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_September_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian #gnome #sigxcpu

2024-09-27 19:11:40 CEST

Thanks to the bits and pieces collected by @npub15k7…gpfe we can now support the alert slider on the #Onplus6/6T to toggle #feedbackd's full/quiet/silent profiles.
#phosh
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/188/449/original/e28960c2cc3d16b5.mp4

2024-09-19 14:58:40 CEST

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Another small detail: I often need to scroll up in #chatty to reread something when composing a msg. Going back to the last msg of the conversation by taping the 🔵 would close the ⌨️ forcing me touch into the text area again (and causing visual distraction). We can fix this by having the 🔵 not take focus.
Posting this to demo it can be a one line change in a UI file to make #LinuxMobile work better. So please get involved! #Gtk 's GtkInspector is great to figure such things out.
#phosh
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/118/343/original/f6cfeb83232cdabf.mp4
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/118/344/original/332cb956586fe022.mp4

2024-09-18 11:18:41 CEST

It's the small things: If you've been bothered with #calls and #chatty seemingly starting up slowly in #phosh (while most other apps startup fast): I've posted MRs to fix this in chatty and calls (which then also prompted a small fix in phosh). Here's a quick demo of calls before and after the change:
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/108/342/original/2727f75764a55bac.mp4
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/108/348/original/1bf3a7c34eb31442.mp4

2024-09-18 11:17:38 CEST

MRs:
- calls: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/calls/-/merge_requests/760
- chatty: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Chatty/-/merge_requests/1432

2024-09-12 11:19:49 CEST

Today was "Bundesweiter Warntag" in Germany so a good point in time to test #ModemManager's & #phosh's upcoming #cellbroadcast support 🚨 .
The sounds emitted by #feedbackd are only stubs (and you don' t hear the haptic in the video but I promise it's there 😃).
There's three messages because the CBMs are sent out on three different channels.
Thanks @npub1dk0…k0wd for supporting my work on this!
#LinuxMobile
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/059/054/original/d29636b82f4c89a0.mp4

2024-09-09 12:31:28 CEST

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And here's what we could do for copy. Put that into an extra MR for now so we can check whether it's predictive enough for the user what is being copied (while the paste bits from above can already land for 0.42).
Note that this is orthogonal to what an app/UI toolkit offers for copy/paste (via context menus or drag handles) already.
#phosh
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/033/934/original/f687dc9433efb4c4.mp4

2024-09-08 18:09:42 CEST

Copy / paste can be fiddly on mobile. I opened an MR today to make the paste part a bit easier in phosh-osk-stub (another old branch finally cleaned up into a (hopefully) mergeable state):
#phosh #gtk #LinuxMobile
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/018/027/949/original/99f39e4e8714e3a7.mp4

2024-09-01 21:51:54 CEST

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Kann man. Geht aber auch mit plain `g_signal_connect`.

2024-09-01 14:26:34 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for August:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_August_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian #gnome

2024-08-31 15:01:21 CEST

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good point, that was supposed to go around the list box only and I added the search entry later on. Should be better now. Thanks!

2024-08-31 14:22:45 CEST

One thing that bugged me is that we had no way in #phosh to present only the available OSK layouts to the user to pick from. This led to confusion as users configured a layout which then would not be available later on. phosh-osk-stub can now provide that information to mobile settings (and it will be simple to add support for e.g. squeekboard if it dumps out the relevant information).
Thanks to #libadwaita and #GTK4's list models such things are fun to add.
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/960/763/original/6208768cce057979.mp4

2024-08-31 14:20:55 CEST

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can the versions used for gtk4-rs be a sensible baseline? That isn't easy to package for Debian either but so far Debian's Rust maintainers always got it in.

2024-08-31 11:06:39 CEST

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(one of the few cases where the sequel is just as good as the first movie).
Be excellent to each other!

2024-08-30 19:15:09 CEST

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they're tracked but the way we grab events doesn't let those bubble up (see the linked issue).

2024-08-30 09:38:10 CEST

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I don't think there's one in squeekboard yet: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/squeekboard/-/tree/main/data/keyboards?ref_type=heads - maybe you want to file an issue or provide one?
There's one in phosh-osk-stub if you want to try another keyboard.

2024-08-29 12:52:15 CEST

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And as @npub1kx0…hnqj
said: lots of issues are hardware specific so Phosh will benefit a lot by getting wider hardware support. I'd say the varying support over devices is what hits us the most atm as the experience differs so much.
2/2

2024-08-29 12:49:28 CEST

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@npub1kx0…hnqj
We're following the discussions. Phosh has a recommended (codified) set of apps/services we ship by default and we preferably develop for / contribute to. That is unlikely to change based on a poll. It can change based on good arguments so I hope to learn some of those during the ongoing discussions (and also learn about gaps that people are currently bridging with workarounds or that we missed completely so far).
1/2

2024-08-28 12:14:21 CEST

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That's related to the way how we currently handle the touch events (so not OP6 specific) so an issue would be helpful.

2024-08-25 17:27:55 CEST

llibphosh-rs 0.0.2 is up at https://crates.io/crates/libphosh . Thanks to @npub1pal…7dg6 for making it compatible with #phosh 0.41 .
This is hopefully the first release 🐸 can use out of the box.

2024-08-25 17:22:18 CEST

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Thanks! That didn't work when I posted it as it was a live stream still. Just wanted to update and saw it's already there 🙏
(I also only noticed during the presentation that @npub14f4…g8xs is on stage too)
Too bad this mastodon instance doesn't allow edits: Gotam's fedi handle is @npub1p9v…z6tl

2024-08-25 12:59:01 CEST

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Yup, better not do that (`dpkg --force-depends` would work to remove system chatty temporarily but it'll get pulled back in on updates).
Another option is to move away /etc/xdg/autostart/sm.puri.Chatty-daemon.desktop when running the flatpak (which AFAIK does not get autostarted on boot so you might not get new SMS).
Chatty is tightly integrated into the system on phones, I think the flatpak is currently more of a demo for systems where it's not running yet.

2024-08-25 12:49:25 CEST

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It took us a long time to make Linux work on PC, servers and laptops either but it grows device by device and if you include the Halium based devices there's quiet a few already. It will just be the new normal at some point.

2024-08-25 12:43:31 CEST

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I would even uninstall the system chatty as otherwise two processes try to take SMS out of the Modem. (and after uninstalling make sure there's no process running).

2024-08-25 10:47:21 CEST

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Looks like you had the system instance still running (starting chatty would then just activate that one).

2024-08-25 09:46:19 CEST

[@suraj_sloth](https://fosstodon.org/@suraj_sloth ) and Gotam talking about #phosh at OOSC (https://oosc-next.vercel.app/):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZJ1d-n2xg

2024-08-24 15:24:56 CEST

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We don't get much feedback from flatpak users (as Chatty is usually recent in most distros) but see e.g. https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Chatty/-/issues/913 . So in case you try it feedback in that issue we be welcome.

2024-08-22 12:55:42 CEST

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Might make sense to also update the Phosh screenshots at some point. The ones here are a bit out of date. Let me know when I can help with that.

2024-08-21 16:00:25 CEST

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3071169

2024-08-20 10:27:54 CEST

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Via matrix (die Debian Channels sind z.B. gebridged) in Chatty?

2024-08-20 09:57:07 CEST

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Can we do some sort of "tagging" like in gitlab so there could be "Librem5", "PinePhone" labels to help people figure out if it will help their device?

2024-08-19 18:53:01 CEST

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Nice initiative and focusing on one distro and UI makes sense (and happy to see #phosh made it in 🙂 ).
At FrOSCon (https://programm.froscon.org/2024/events/3178.html) however we saw (again) that lots of issues affecting
daily drivability for users are device specific (modem data and call stability, gps availability, sensor support, camera sensor support). I thus wonder if the scope is still too broad and one should look at "per device" funds as well?

2024-08-19 15:00:42 CEST

While memory is still fresh I summed up my gist from helping to organize/run this years #FOSSOnMobile devroom at #FrOSCon: (https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/A_short_look_back_at_the_FOSS_on_Mobile_Devroom_at_FrOSCon_2024.html) in the hope that we can do another one next year (and there'd be people interested to participate again).
#LinuxMobile

2024-08-19 10:04:01 CEST

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Thanks! Hopefully we'll have a devroom again next year.

2024-08-18 22:18:11 CEST

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just noticed there's a @npub1u36…w5c4 account too which would have been the better @-mention of the presenter, sorry.

2024-08-18 19:48:18 CEST

Yesterday I had the chance to give a short #phosh status update in the FOSS on Mobile devroom at #FrOSCon: https://programm.froscon.org/2024/events/3153.html
Slides are at: https://programm.froscon.org/2024/system/event_attachments/attachments/000/000/830/original/phosh-status.pdf

2024-08-18 15:18:01 CEST

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also shot on #Librem5

2024-08-18 15:14:50 CEST

[@tzafrir](https://tooot.im/@tzafrir ) The PinePhone arrived. Thanks a lot!

2024-08-18 14:08:46 CEST

@npub1pus…aagp talking about the Linux phone app ecosystem in the FOSS on Mobile dev room at #FrOSCon
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/848/503/original/b8221472e7c45a88.jpeg

2024-08-18 07:43:48 CEST

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We often call them Phoshi but idk now yet if they like it.

2024-08-17 10:26:42 CEST

Evangelos talking in the FOSS on Mobile Devroom at #FrOSCon 2024 about debugging the #phosh / #gnome stack. #LinuxMobile #ShotOnLibrem5
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/838/980/original/e19ad45a21b29755.jpeg

2024-08-14 19:28:05 CEST

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it's (from it's structure) very much targeting clients atm.

2024-08-14 16:57:29 CEST

I've tagged version 0.0.2 of #libcmatrix - a #matrix client library.
This release focuses on making Matrix support in #chatty more robust, simplifying some APIs and improving the documentation (which is now automatically generated at https://agx.github.io/libcmatrix/)
See https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/libcmatrix/-/releases/v0.0.2 for the list of changes and contributors.

2024-08-13 19:28:09 CEST

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Power button long press. Im phosh-nightly repo gibt es auch ein gnome-screenshots das auf den Bildschirm passt: https://phosh.mobi/posts/phosh-nightly/

2024-08-11 11:47:00 CEST

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Here's the #LinuxMobile dev room schedule for Saturday https://programm.froscon.org/2024/schedule/2.html#1 and Sunday: https://programm.froscon.org/2024/schedule/2.html#1 happening in Room C117 . There's also a talk about eSIM on the main track by @npub164g…k0lj in HS4 on Sunday.

2024-08-08 21:56:53 CEST

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Pinged someone but best place would be their support matrix channel: https://librem.one/support/ (I'm not in there atm).

2024-08-07 08:22:52 CEST

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See https://specifications.freedesktop.org/notification-spec/latest/categories.html and https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh/-/blob/main/src/notifications/notify-feedback.c#L66
Regarding suspend: caffeine is just a quicker way to do it (so it's also available when the phone is locked) but tweaks certainly works too.

2024-08-06 19:03:42 CEST

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oh...and with recent feedbackd you can use the camera flash LED as status indicator LED (but maybe you figured that out already)

2024-08-06 19:01:01 CEST

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Nice! 🎉
Regarding fractal: Fractal could set the `im.received` category on the notifications (this is supported by glib via https://docs.gtk.org/gio/method.Notification.set_category.html) so you'd get feedback
Regarding suspend: A good way to keep the device from suspending is the caffeine quick setting toggle. Toggling this on prevents suspend, toggling it off allows the device to suspend (e.g. at night). So one can save battery over longer non-use periods easily.

2024-08-06 09:37:45 CEST

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See https://forums.puri.sm/t/phosh-0-39-0-is-out/23564/18

2024-08-06 08:49:31 CEST

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I'd say it's not about trust but necessity. The final decision which code lands on devices shipped by Purism by default can only be done by Purism - so it won't pan out without collaboration. I guess we want to see at least the bandwidth to continue kernel maintenance plus the bandwidth to review and merge contributions spent there.
(People who don't want to run the default OS have lots of alternatives already).

2024-08-05 22:39:12 CEST

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Ideally this should turn out to be a cooperation between the involved parties.

2024-08-05 15:54:44 CEST

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Nice! Regarding the choice of the backend API. We're discussing if we shouldn't merge EV into Electrolysis: https://gitlab.gnome.org/guidog/phosh-ev/-/issues/1 - It already knows about different backends, so maybe that's easier and you want to investigate this?
I'd then follow your footsteps and move over the Kia/Hyundai bits too.

2024-08-03 08:45:23 CEST

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Just for the record: The Librem 5 has pogo pins for extension. There's a breakout board for that (https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5-rigid-flex-breakout-board/) but you can also do without it.
There's also a breakout board to repurpose the M.2 slot:
https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/librem5-m2-breakout

2024-08-02 13:48:30 CEST

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Looking forward to watch the video!

2024-08-02 12:48:12 CEST

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I think I don't understand the intention then. If you want to do that in a regular window you'd call `gnome-control-center wifi`. (which is what happens when you tap "Wi-Fi Settings").

2024-08-02 10:41:34 CEST

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We don't use Windows only Linux 😃 .
Seriously: I guess you mean popping up a separate dialog for the selection? That would work too but would make other potentially relevant information hidden. Having it all in one "vertical column" avoids this. This will become more visible when we don't swap out the quick settings for the status page anymore.

2024-08-01 23:12:55 CEST

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They ship both. squeekboard being the default there atm.

2024-08-01 21:52:47 CEST

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Are you on squeekboard or phosh-osk-stub? It only shows for phosh-osk-stub as squeeboard doesn't support those (yet?).

2024-08-01 20:07:00 CEST

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This looks like the right approach to me until we're in more feature complete waters. Alternative would be to only release 1-3 times a year.

2024-08-01 20:03:45 CEST

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No worries. If you look into the related MRs you'll already see mentions about future widgetry that will improve on this (or just wait until it materializes 😃).
It's as so often in sw development: cut the problem into parts that can progress independently (here: the actual status pages and their content (bluetooth, wifi, …) and the quick settings widgetry.
We could have waited until everything is ready but opted to get the ready parts out to easy some workflows.

2024-08-01 19:57:27 CEST

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That GUI bit is in mobile settings and it allows you to arrange the order of the shortcuts but currently doesn't allow to add/remove them. Code contributions to improve this welcome 😃
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/698/916/original/0cced6e0c96bc7f1.mp4

2024-08-01 19:45:48 CEST

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If it's about the shortcuts:
gsettings get sm.puri.phosh.osk.Terminal shortcuts
"man phosh-osk-stub" has that explained.

2024-08-01 19:42:47 CEST

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This is not about UX design but about having status pages early or wait for other things to land. We opted for early and iterating on it. You're free to not use that feature and totally ignore it.

2024-08-01 17:18:18 CEST

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The above networks are mocked via python-dbusmock. Here's a screenshot of a real list:
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/697/601/original/304d63460711792f.png

2024-08-01 17:16:28 CEST

@npub1uhd…78wy and myself worked a bit on making Wi-Fi networks easier to select in #phosh's quick setting status page by giving the Wi-Fi list more vertical space and making each list box row a bit wider thus making it easier to select via touch (the same applies to other status pages like Bluetooth device selection):
#LinuxMobile #gtk
https://social.librem.one/system/media_attachments/files/017/697/582/original/eec3b5cae68adc2d.mp4

2024-08-01 12:25:39 CEST

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…#gandi it was such a nice place once.

2024-08-01 12:01:04 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for July:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_July_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian #gnome

2024-08-01 08:52:33 CEST

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Ah...that's where #phosh MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh/-/merge_requests/1478 came from 😃 Nice!

2024-08-01 08:44:59 CEST

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…especially when you can use `git bisect run …` so it's' fully automatic.

2024-07-31 07:20:57 CEST

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The apps will have it via GTK. Regarding the shell itself It's not one of my top priorities. There's lots of other groundwork that I currently deem more important to make #LinuxMobile phones a smooth experience but if someone wants to send patches that is certainly very welcome.

2024-07-01 09:51:39 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for June:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_June_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian #gnome

2024-06-01 19:19:32 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for May:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_May_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian

2024-05-02 08:43:05 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for April:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_April_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian

2024-04-03 12:12:06 CEST

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…and here are my #FreeSoftware bits for March:
https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_March_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #debian

2024-03-02 19:21:03 CET

My #FreeSoftware activities in February (at least the ones I remember): https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Free_Software_Activities_February_2024.html
#LinuxMobile #phosh #Debian