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Last Notes npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Been off Nostr for a while but have been continuing to update https://mstr.rip/ Recent recovery has seen MSTR recover to "only" $3.2bn down total on the prefs, and Strive $176m down. MSTR average BTC purchase price plus dividends paid to date puts the breakeven price at $97,200, and Strive at $99,300. The similarities don't end there - looking at the current value of BTC bought via the issuance, vs overall obligations, MSTR sit at just under 80%, Strive at just under 78%. Strive is ripping but MSTR is still muted - and the reason may be that the market knows they are still massively in the hole for STRC, and the returns still need to show they can outpace the dividends. Once these figures get to breakeven (at which point of course STRC would be well back at par) - watch out. Comments welcomed on the site - to my knowledge noone else is tracking this vital metric of the prefs and whether they can pay their way for the common shareholders of these companies. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG I’ve followed his content for a long time and I agree with you- he’s consistently on point about pretty much everything. Just my opinion, but the way he’s presenting this is OTT. Saylor is “cooked” only after a very long and pronounced downturn in Bitcoin price. Could that happen? Sure. But it’s being presented as close to a done deal, whereas they have tonnes of runway and the maths simply says that if Bitcoin outperforms 12% a year CAGR vs the dollar (or arguably lower - down to long term money supply growth rate over the very long term if you take into account that STRC dividends don’t compound), MSTR will deliver positive returns in btc terms over time. That’s why it’s sensationalist imo. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Matt - I agree with the endorsements criticism but can’t help but think you’re getting a little sensationalist here. Let’s look forward as you say. Bitcoin is close to its 200 wma right now. Do you think it will return more than 15% pa against the USD over the next 5 year period? Because ultimately, that’s all MSTR need to outperform the prefs dividends and tread water, even if the STRC rate rises to that sort of level. And right now that return doesn’t even see Bitcoin back to its ATH in 5 years. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Hi Matt, long time fan and viewer of your content and I appreciate all the work you are doing on BIP-110. I appreciate you don’t like the FIAT games here. I own a chunk of MSTR, as a resident in the UK we can’t hold Bitcoin directly in tax advantaged accounts (SIPP or ISA), not even in ETFs. So MSTR is a natural option for some to gain bitcoin exposure in some circumstances with that trapped capital. I created https://mstr.rip site to show where they are on preference share plus dividends vs btc bought at outset - at the moment they are notionally $5bn down. A huge loss! This can change quickly though and the notional breakeven price is around $95k for that conceptual question. I agree with the dilution point on the recent buy, but it’s marginal and hardly a death spiral. Volatility works as a friend to their model in general, and it’s only 6 months since Bitcoin ATH. I’d be interested in your thoughts on how MSTR get into serious trouble - in my view one underrated option they have is “do nothing” - pay the dividends out of cash for 7 months, sell BTC thereafter if they absolutely have to, and even at a $60k btc price they are then having to sell 2,383btc or 0.3% of their btc per month to meet dividends. I can see why he did the recent buy though - trying to balance the confidence in the prefs with longer term looking to increase btc per share for common equity holders. Other options exist for funding also - they could issue further convertible debt at likely low interest to roll over existing convertible obligations once due, but clearly they’d rather avoid this, with it sitting senior to prefs. We are deep in a Bitcoin bear market already though and I think many overestimate MSTR’s potential impact in what is a deeply liquid spot Bitcoin market. TLDR - Bitcoin will be fine, and MSTR? Whether they outperform Bitcoin very long term likely all rests on Bitcoin returning more than the dividend yields required to pay the prefs. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Strategy have currently reached an unwelcome milestone at present - they have hit a $5bn notional loss when looking at the prefs and dividends paid, versus the bitcoin that they bought when issuing those prefs. See https://mstr.rip No wonder that the share price has been rinsed. However, this is a wholly notional number, and it’s a marathon not a sprint. Also updated the Strive tab for their massive buy this week, along with updating for cash and STRC holdings. #mstr #strc #strive npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Have made a couple of updates to https://mstr.rip Firstly, have added a required Bitcoin ARR to calculate when the project forward button is used. This illustrates a facet of the 11.5% STRC rate that many do not think about when they conceptualise it as a pretty high interest rate - it doesn’t compound. Hence - based on position to date, if we look 20 years into the future the breakeven Bitcoin annual rate of return to match the prefs plus dividends from the current price is only around 7% p.a. This is an underrated component of the maths - over a 20 year term MSTR only need Bitcoin to appreciate at USD money supply growth to keep pace with current dividends and not leave the equity holders out of pocket from issuing the prefs. Secondly, Strive has demonstrated itself a very interesting player in the space with the move to daily dividends. Have added a separate Strive tab with SATA so users can monitor similar performance for those prefs and dividends. #mstr #strc #bitcoin #strive #sata npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG See https://mstr.rip With a break even price of $93,500 for all their prefs combined since issuing them, plus interest accrued, MSTR are notionally in the hole on the entire concept until Bitcoin recovers back past that point. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG MSTR Preference share tracker updated for the latest mini-buy announced on Monday - see https://mstr.rip As time goes on - the performance of the bitcoin bought by the prefs vs the principle plus dividends accrued to date Will inevitably be THE game to decide the fate of the common equity. Currently $2.1bn in the hole, but the game is long. #mstr #strc #saylor npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG MSTR added 3,273 btc today - not likely to hit any headlines given the last couple of weeks, but it’s still approaching 0.5% increase and a huge amount if annualised at that level. Taken through the lens of the preference share tracker, this latest buy would extend the runway on the dividend coverage output, but makes no difference of course to the general prefs P/L, which in my view holds the ultimate destiny for the company. Bitcoin outperforms the prefs on a very long time frame, and MSTR wins hands down. If it fails to, the common equity bleeds, as shown over the last 12 months. For the tracker see - https://mstr.rip #mstr #strategy #saylor #strc npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Keen to hear feedback on this MSTR / Strategy preference share tracker I’ve just created. https://mstr.rip It looks at the performance of MSTR’s prefs vs the Bitcoin they bought at the time of each issuance. Which of course is not the whole story as the Bitcoin is not tethered to it in any way, but over the long term it is surely key to equity performance to outperform the dividends. It allows you to adjust Bitcoin price, date and STRC interest rate to see outcomes. At present they are about $2.4bn down on pref issuance - which of course is reflected by the share price movement in last 12 months. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Thanks to @nprofile…xzud for putting out an abridged version of my article on the BBC’s Moneybox “Understanding Crypto” episode, which can be seen here https://bitcoinpolicyuk.substack.com/p/the-bbcs-moneybox-understanding-crypto Original (much longer, with transcripts from the episode) can be seen at bitcoinactuary.co.uk npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG I’ve now established a website with all my articles from the last few years - bitcoinactuary.co.uk It’s not much, but it’s honest work.. And new article just published - the BBC and Bitcoin. #bbc #moneybox npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Absolutely, well said. One additional reason housing is so expensive in the UK is not particularly a shortage of housing. It’s because housing is actively being used as a form of money, as the designated money itself is no good at storing value. Everyone knows this and acts upon it even if they don’t really know why. How many boomers do you know still living in houses far too big for them? Stamp duty is also a huge deterrent to move for some. Fix the money, fix housing. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG This is all spot on; I’d just add that companies are not necessarily the distinct problem here - there are plenty that stack bitcoin with zero leverage. Plenty of individuals get over their skis with leverage also, trying to accelerate their stack. And max pain is often the result and they get sniffed out. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Important to note when Saifedean said this he was talking about on chain Bitcoin. Don’t think it shows him to be a store of value maxi. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG A new article of mine published in Bitcoin magazine - the return of the Tontine! Could be a very interesting development in the pensions space and a logical option for bitcoiners in retirement also. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/the-return-of-the-tontine-a-natural-retirement-option-for-bitcoiners #tontines #pensions npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Is your issue with $NAKA, or the entire concept in general? Can’t deny the above always felt scammy and laced with insiders with such a huge PIPE proportion. But then, if you run a business, is it a good idea to hold Bitcoin on the balance sheet? Corporations will always exist - a hyperbitcoinised world will just place the bar for investing in companies that much higher than in the Fiat world now. Yes, there will be scams. But the well run will serve to put the rest of the corporate world on notice. Wrote a piece for the Bitcoin collective on this area last week - would love to hear your thoughts https://bitcoincollective.co/bitcoin-treasury-companies-ponzi-or-adoption/ npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yeah, I think long term most of these companies will fall by the wayside and won’t attract investment unless they provide real value in the world. For the time being though, as we are early even just offering exposure to btc in wider markets than previously available is being treated as valuable. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Agreed on 1,2, and 4 especially - a complete red herring if countries are running deficits - it’s far more instructive to make Bitcoin ownership as easy as possible for every individual who is not running a deficit themselves. On Bitcoin Treasury Companies though - I think it pays to think long term. Corporations and potential investment in them will always exist. It’s only natural that investments in these companies pop up as an option (essentially priced in Bitcoin) relative to just saving in Bitcoin. You may end up with more or less Bitcoin than you invest - like any investment - buyer beware of course. But it’s a pretty natural state of things that these will pop up and try and acquire Bitcoin - especially when tapping into other capital pools (fixed income etc) that can’t otherwise access it, as Saylor is doing. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Absolutely. It’s been a text book of how to build up a Bitcoin treasury company - honesty, integrity, transparency, and by the look of it a tonne of hard work. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yes I’d generally agree - I think one point around this being - at what point of MNAV compression would you stop using the ATM like facility? Of course it’s a balancing act but I sort of have the view that you increase the stack almost no matter what at this stage. 10k btc has to be the next target. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Thoughts on SWC Bitcoin based convertible debt as announced this week in the UK.. This is a loan of $21m worth of Bitcoin, so let’s say around 180 btc and increases their stack around 8-9%. It’s at zero interest in Bitcoin terms. The conversion sits at 5% above the equity price from the lenders point of view, and can be triggered once 50% above from the companies point of view and only after 6 months for this latter option. Basically, the binary way to look at it is as to whether it converts or not - if it does, the company gets an extra atm at around 200p. If not, the loan just gets paid back with minimal loss in Bitcoin terms. Why would the lender convert? If the shares have performed better than btc. Why would the company convert? As long as the effective purchase of bitcoin at the conversion price is accretive to shareholders. Strikes me there are some edge cases where the lender could lose in btc terms but they are marginal - eg equity goes up 55%, but btc goes up by even more - lender ends up with the shares and not the btc? Be interesting to see if there are further of these and on slightly better terms for the company - ie ends up being a more accretive atm if converted. #swc #btc npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG The audacity of $STRC / Stretch, allowing the market to set the interest rate🤯 Somewhere up in the clouds Mises, Hayek and Rothbard have read the prospectus… and they’re smiling. @nprofile…h9ay npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Ha ha yes I noticed this earlier. They will go to great lengths to confuse Bitcoin and Crypto as terms; it’s 100% deliberate. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG My mistake😆. Clearly she is onto something.. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG 295 billion teeth 🦷 in the world (approx) Only 21 million Bitcoin. Gotta love the FT🙄 cc @npub1lr2…dl6a npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Agreed. It’s akin to people saying “never sell your bitcoin” without considering that if you’re on a bitcoin standard, there will be inevitable times in life when you’ll have to spend more than you acquire anyway. However, in the yield argument they are ignoring the opportunity cost of owning more btc (or mstr, if that way inclined) in the first place. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Lots of fairly inane chat about #msty at the moment. Just bear in mind what the underlying is, and that in general terms, at varying times in the market buyers of calls can profit, sometimes sellers of calls, but unlikely both at the same time. My conclusion is that MSTY holders are likely to end up underperforming #MSTR, and are likely thinking in $ fiat terms. Just like a trader who buys Bitcoin at 10k, sells at 20k, buys at 30k, sells at 50k, buys at 60k sells at 80k, and probably thinks they are some sort of genius. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG #bitcoin https://m.primal.net/QEQe.jpg npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG 💯 npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Massively degen, yes! But not obviously a scam? As in, he can explain where the yield comes from and at least there’s no native token?! npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Fantastic work Susie, and spot on. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Found you ;) npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG It’s almost like the past isn’t necessarily a decent guide to the future 🤔 So called “cycles” ending would be a great outcome for Bitcoin generally. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG 🤣 Firstly, I really do want some of what you’re smoking! I’m very bullish MSTR, don’t get me wrong. Two big misconceptions here in my opinion. One is they will specifically try and game inclusion into S&P. Absolutely not. Second is how much mstr move the market. Grossly overestimated I reckon. Sure, if they didn’t exist would Bitcoin be at a lower price? Probably. But all the shareholders would likely have found different ways to Bitcoin exposure rather than MSTR. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Why should the share price have this perpetual gravity towards 1? Shares broadly trade at the value of their balance sheet, plus net present value of future profits. Why assume they can’t continue to make the future profits that they have been showing in their Bitcoin yield metrics? I’ve argued before - you can put the case for mstr to be less than nav 1 (if you think they may go bust) or indeed greater - but 1 is never going to be the answer as to how to value them. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG I know what you’re saying. I see nostr as like a real life conversation, online. In a real life conversation you never get to take it back. You can clarify, augment, apologise.. but you can’t delete what you say. Obviously nostr is potentially one to many so quite a different dynamic. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG As #MSTR announced the first #$STRK preference share at the market offering today, some thoughts on how this might play out in the coming months. Firstly, $11m is extremely small as a way to start. It would take around 1,900 weeks at this level to exhaust the $21bn! But what I suspect will happen is they will continuously ramp this up in the wake of bitcoin price appreciation in the months to come. Let's consider how they might do this. The current price of STRK is $88.45, so MSTR are offering about a 9% yield in selling into the market at current levels. That price is made up of two components, essentially, the value of the perpetual fixed dividend payment of $8, and the value of potential future conversion to equity at 1/10th of the number of STRK shares held. Bear in mind if bitcoin price rises, the value of that potential conversion to equity will also rise (eventually, if MSTR traded well above $1,000, STRK might end up trading more like MSTR stock since the $8 dividend would prove so small by comparison). Just like when selling MSTR shares into the market, there is no free lunch - by selling more STRK ATM, it will depress the STRK price, and all else equal require them to pay a higher yield to the market the more they sell. Selling at $100 is clearly better for MSTR than selling at $88. What they could do though, is decide that at any level of STRK price above X, say, they will relentlessly issue the ATM in to the market. Let's say this price is $100 (which leads to the originally 8% dividend). As the MSTR share price rises, the increasing value of the equity conversion, and perhaps the increasing security coverage on the dividend payments may help them to sell more and more STRK into the market at this level. @nprofile…4knj @nprofile…7jq0 npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yes it’s a good question, but probably not to be honest. Lots of people predicted the same would happen to MSTR when the US ETFs came along, which turned out to be seriously wrong, so my guess is everyone tends to overthink these impacts. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yep, I’m in the UK also! Albeit for me what started out as a BTC proxy has developed out as something quite different. He’s tapping into insatiable demand for return from the capital markets, and making positive BTC yield per share in doing so. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG MSTR introduces counterparty risk - the Coinbase custody risk is worth a mention. So I would definitely mention that. Albeit custody has a cost regardless of who you are - even if it’s yourself - so arguably they may have an efficient model. Of all the negatives I think regulation / tax is one of the largest - change can happen fast in future. @nprofile…nc5g klippsten’s race to avoid the war article is still valid npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Oddly, one of the biggest drivers of NAV closer to 1 could be a sustained rapid rise in BTC, say to $1m - which might hugely constrain their ability to generate as much btc yield relative to the btc they hold. However in that case, shareholders would probably still sleep at night! npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG For all the #MSTR 1x MNav people out there. I’m confused.. you want to value MSTR solely based on the bitcoin they hold, but that in itself has gone from 252,220 to 499,096 since the US election in November. So which figure do you want to use again?! npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG If he did, the zero discernible impact $2bn+ buying has on the bitcoin price is remarkable! npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yeah I think that’s it - there are ways of securing your nsec and not exposing it etc, but once it’s out in the open that npub might as well be considered like any other imitation account of you. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Beginners question admittedly, but isn’t the point that on Nostr if someone got hold of your nsec you’d just start again with a new nsec? And you’d achieve this via a social layer of trust, showing it to people in person who know you etc, and building up your network from there. And this would fairly rapidly overtake and discredit the former one. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG My guess is the motley fool started back in the day with decent intentions, but don’t make enough money from their investing advice subscription services so are pretty much for hire nowadays. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yes, the “reach” is greater on Twitter. Depends on your incentives in posting anything, I guess. I’d argue talk is cheap, and in this instance by talk I mean posting both on Twitter and Nostr. Using nostr instead of Twitter and not in addition is the only way to really signal your views on which concept you’re really aligned with. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yes great point. I’ve started to try to get away from my predictable phone addition and it has resulted in going back to more singular devices, which just do what they need to - Alarm clock, torch (to separate from phone at night) Notebook Kindle probably also a good example especially if can be on airplane mode. I’m sure better e-readers are out there. Was looking at a new TV for the first time in over a decade the other day also and wondering if there’s such things as dumb TVs nowadays npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Good explanation. I don’t have a need for it right now but think it’s a really interesting product for producing a guaranteed income - if backing an annuity it would allow for a much higher annual income than you’d get on the market. Within that you have to weigh up the credit risk but it’s insanely covered by the bitcoin they own at present. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Next few weeks could be wild npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG Yes all those “leverage shenanigans”… all so opaque. I wish someone would make a website to keep up with them all. Oh wait! strategy.com npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG A thought on a different lens about #MSTR new preference share offering $STRK, which at the moment yields about 9% p.a in perpetuity. As #Saylor has said, this offers a lower risk product out to the market with a more limited upside and downside than MSTR equity. In the earnings call Saylor pointed out that their current Bitcoin holdings could pay for around 750 years worth of #STRK dividends at current prices, and even 100 years worth if BTC declined by 75%. There are still tail events where the ability to make these payments comes under doubt. The question is, at what point will TradFi investors with no particular positive sentiment on Bitcoin sit up and take notice of this 9% yield? Possibly, at the time when they can hedge out these tail events and still obtain a decent spread over US treasuries. Could it effectively be done now? Would love to hear thoughts on this. Currently, a 2 year put on MSTR with a strike price at $10 can be bought at 0.66, suggesting a max return of about 14x on the premium. IBIT is an alternative - a 2 year put on #IBIT (current price around 55) with a strike of 15 (i.e. a drawdown of 70%) is priced at 0.74, which is a max return of 19x. I'm not sure those offer decent enough protection for someone who wants to use puts to insure against absolute loss of capital on the preference shares, since the premium would have to come out of the annual return and still look compelling for someone looking for an annuity type investment outperforming treasuries at little risk. Final thought - the upside equity conversion also has value and selling covered calls against that could pay to hedge some of the downside risk in dollar terms. cc @nprofile…mwnq @nprofile…5gu2 @nprofile…t0d8 @nprofile…qztu would love to hear any thoughts and please do spread this question further on Nostr? #asknostr PS my point is not that I'd do this personally, but if it starts adding up for someone in Tradfi with zero positive view on Bitcoin this would be a sign of inversion of the current financial world and Saylor may be able to issue a huge amount of these.. npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG If anyone needs a good book to read, check out Dava Sobel’s Longitude, the story of John Harrison’s lifelong quest to build a timepiece that could operate at sea. Truly inspiring. We stand on the shoulders of giants, and Harrison was one. #bookstr #longitude #harrison https://m.primal.net/ORNA.jpg npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG I think B) is the relevant one for me. And it’s their ability to continually tap the capital markets and increase this which is compelling. Of course that also inevitably leads to A), but that’s not an explicit target - I reckon watching the q3 earnings call and the Bitcoin principles slide is highly useful here. Of course the golden question will be - at what level of A) does it all get too bullish and toppy versus simply owning the bitcoin?! npub1l0nndkenfgqndvjhl8g47thl3eh75tdzm9jdwppfemmwkxrmkr2s7cwvaz 343PG MSTR is simply a company seeking to grow their bitcoin in their treasury. They represent an investment in equity - nothing special, except they are early. In future I hope lots of other companies will present a similar proposition - but the opportunity cost of these choices will always be holding the btc. Companies will definitely have to demonstrate a positive risk adjusted proposition for individuals to invest.