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Yeah, I kind of figured that's what you're talking about
I just don't see a lot of point in talking about " maximalism" as an ideal
When the way the word is *actually used IRL* refers to something completely different
But point taken
Why pay taxes to those who fund wars and launder public money?
Nope
and noones every claimed to have spun up a basic Core wallet and gotten drained.
Theres a difference when you dgaf about trading but you DO gaf about security
Yeah you're the only person that mentioned the word lottery!
I like the idea of using the I Ching too, I wonder how many bits in a hexagram?
Always remember
In the end all the stuff about different chains and protocols and ways of doing things is just implementation discussion
and the only thing that really matters is that you transact P2P.
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You seem confused man
RNG on a computer or phone is ALSO sampling physical entropy.
And no, the sample source isn't all the same. So it isn't all the same method.
and even if it was, it's not any different than dice rolls, which IS all the same method.
And people are notoriously BAD at entropy.
So that's a pretty weird thing to say.
256 bits of entropy is NOT hard to find and device-based RNG is a really weird thing to be uptight about.
Its doing the same damn thing a person is rolling the dice.
And let's not forget to mention,
If device RNG is broken then TLS is broken and security of the entire internet is broken.
Api keys, SSH, oauth authorization, HTTPS, session cookies, Signal messages, DNSSEC
All broken and every internet connected application is able to be compromised.
So tbh, since RNG is SO foundational, it is one of the most battle tested and thought about problems in history.
You're offhand dismissal of device RNG as " deterministic" is incorrect.
My fulcrum indexer was broken when migration ended and i had to upgrade to the latest Core version to get everything working 😕
And the same thing is possible because the 1-face of the die is heavier and rolls aren't perfectly random.
But they're good enough.
I mean
*I personally never touched a cold card and always suggested that a custom device might provide a better ux for normies, but was unnecessary.
But what you're describing is extremely common, of course.
No.
Prove there's something deterministic about hardware RNG.
I'll wait. Because you can't.
The orange is bleeding, that's what's happening.
Health, family, friendship.
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There's only one way to use dice afaik. And only a few ways they could have statistical tendencies.
But it doesn't matter,
256 bits of entropy isn't hard to find. Whether you do it in meatspace or online, either way is random and it's not getting broken.
You can use either and its fine.
256 bits of entropy isn't hard to find.
(but nobody could prove it)
The randomness on this phone is more random than someones crappy dice.
In the clear light of day...
It's kind of weird that people would trust RNG on a custom device implemented by who knows who
but people wouldn't trust RNG on a laptop or mobile device that's been the subject of hot debate by autistic for 30 years
Just saying
What's "not necessarily"?
It's not the cpu and its not the application. Its a dedicated hardware RNG.
Which is different by device, sure.
its so over
I shouldn't be laughing
I used to flip coins for the hexagrams 🤔
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BLOCKSTREAM SWAPS TO BE INTEGRATED INTO BULL AND BLUE WALLET
OMFG 😂😂😂
Also
While the titan chip and others have a TEE, my understanding is they dont seed the CSPRNG
so it's not involved.
I also didn't say anything about generation of RNG from a single source or a black box 👋
I didn't say anything about TEEs
Next time read the post plz
Like with everything else. However, there are some foot guns.
If you're a proxmox user and you think you'll spin up a VM without a network adapter to make a seed, that VM is going to initialize with no entropy pool.
It doesn't have any hardware to sample to "build" entropy, so you have to pass it entropy from the host system.
It is a *really good thing to understand that randomness is a thing, and how it applies to your life cryptographically.
When an application on your phone or running on your Linux laptop needs to access randomness it gets it from the kernel.
So the app itself does *not generate the randomness, it asks the system for a certain amount of entropy.
The system get it from a pool of entropy generated from hardware on the device. So theres an onboard RNG that gets mixed with software pseudo RNG
and when you create a seed the wallet draws from that.
It's pretty fucking random. There have been many extremely autistic people concerned about RNG for about 50 years.
It is an extremely well understood space. and the implementation of that randomness has been examined by orders of magnitude more people than any small hardware company.
Randomness generated on a device is certainly more random than the 2 - 3% loss of entropy you'll get from dice not being perfectly milled.
The problem with your device is that it might have malware on it, not that the RNG is bad.
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Wow
I'm so glad there are so many chains with so much cheap and private block space available.
The robot says its identical for iOS
Worthwhile to note
The wallets themselves do not create any entropy or show any preference for any algorithm,
they simply ask the operating system to provide a specific amount of entropy.
For Android anyway
its mixing entropy from a random number generator on the device with pseudo random number generation from the kernel to make an "entropy pool"
The wallet reads from that pool to make a new key.
This is really cool and works like a charm! https://haven.dergigi.com/3564950809308596434eb5c61e5da165098f1838f283264827d91558d53b78fc.jpg
Tbf I got a response to my suggestion they cover their asses rather than litigate the past
Um
yeah but he was ALSO a "toxic bitcoin maximalist"
and so were most of the people who recommended and used coldcard.
BECAUSE BITCOIN MAXIMALISM IS FUCKING RETARDED AND DOESN'T VERIFY JACK SHIT
Y'all know I'm not much for conspiracies,
and I've been loling a bit about @nprofile…w0am aggressive post-mortem.
But if NVK said that the Odell's guildes protected people from the 4.0.0 firmware bug...
which is what Matt said on-air,
then he sure wasn't talking about any USB dev flag.
The timing of it all is extremely sus.
and we've already identified NVK as a sociopath asshole.
The reason it was so bad is DIRECTLY because Bitcoin maximalism is culty groupthink and doesn't actually encourage thinking critically.
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Worst part is he's made it obvious *for years*
Everybody has to be a fucking "coach" these days
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"Open Source Software Development"
It was a "belief-system failure" because *Bitcoin maximalism doesn't have critical thinking safeguards.*
And all the posturing "toxic maxis" should reflect deeply on that and STFU for a while.
