VitorPamplona
Vitor Pamplona

So, I can choose a Rizful lightning node for $70 dollars, an Alby node for $10/mo, run my own server and spend a lot of time for about $5/mo, use a custodial wallet and sell my soul or... wait for it... use a free on-chain wallet for zaps that I don't need to do ANYTHING to set up or maintain it?
Tough call.
Also, my Rizful sign up verify email went straight to Spam...

2026-05-21 15:10:01 UTC

I know people think the US is doomed and losing it's empire status with all the debt and wars, yada yada... but let's not forget that most of this AI innovation was made here in the past few years. Capturing value is still what the US does best, for the good and the bad.

2026-05-21 11:59:34 UTC

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Nothing else has worked in the past 10 years, so maybe there isn't anything better than 2014 tech.

2026-05-21 11:49:42 UTC

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Yep, that's our point.

2026-05-21 11:36:20 UTC

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I am the one that is always in the mud

2026-05-21 11:35:52 UTC

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Hum.. what's not showing? I think I can see it on the profile. It looks ugly as fuck, but it is there.

2026-05-21 11:13:10 UTC

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Yes. We can try to make anything besides sender, receiver and amount private if we can. But those three are public and thus traceable by definition.

2026-05-21 11:03:10 UTC

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My question is what else can I do with headers alone + nostr information? We can do OTS + onchain zap validation with headers only. But I don't think I can send without fee estimation, which needs mempool, etc..

2026-05-21 10:59:54 UTC

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I don't disagree. Our point has been that everything is bad. It's all just smoke and mirrors out there. We are just trying to pick the least bad while not trying fool users into thinking that zaps can ever be private.

2026-05-21 10:55:52 UTC

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Yep. I read your stuff before as well and I agree with most of it.
The difference between our points is that I am not trying to make a public chain private.
And after trying to use and in some cases even help develop all the "private" stuff out there, I ended up realizing it's all just smoke and mirrors.
You guys are saying onchain is retarded. Well for us, everything is retarded. We are just picking the least retarded stack for our specific use case.

2026-05-21 10:42:26 UTC

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"Poor judgment" can only be assigned to humans, even with today's AI.
Don't worry. I still like you.

2026-05-21 10:40:08 UTC

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Yep, the interesting point is that now we can easily analyze balance and not just zap flow in web of trust systems.
Maybe it can even help with key rotation schemes since now we have a reliable source of time.

2026-05-21 10:26:44 UTC

👀
#nevent1q…p5vd

2026-05-21 10:20:26 UTC

Here you see Claude and I trying to organize the flow of information on Nostr so that it looks neat to you.
https://npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z.blossom.band/8f97f31a729a1d10ea4762ee6c85a59da24d3b76c157b55afe8934f255670f99.mp4

2026-05-21 09:46:42 UTC

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Yep, unfortunately lots of people think its a privacy silver bullet.

2026-05-21 09:36:07 UTC

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Security by complexity. People love it.

2026-05-21 09:27:54 UTC

Nothing like an Ad Hominem to prove we are in the right path. GM.
#nevent1q…4sfg

2026-05-21 08:52:25 UTC

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I led a soccer team for the graphics dept called TriangleFans 😅

2026-05-21 08:51:08 UTC

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I am adding it. We will become a Bitcoin node in time

2026-05-21 08:10:12 UTC

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A better version of the npub that includes your relays

2026-05-21 02:30:08 UTC

Devs racing to deliver the latest Nostr feature https://npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z.blossom.band/a8c80ad3eca1703dc5e97b103f487eaaf51effb15a5a6bba64f2925eb3d53223.mp4

2026-05-21 00:56:50 UTC

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I am still trying to figure out how to get only good outbox relays out of nip66 records that will accept posts from the user or good inbox relays, etc.

2026-05-21 00:06:09 UTC

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Also FYI you are using nostr.band as inbox and outbox and that relay went bust a few months ago.
Maybe add nos.lol and nostr.mom to your public outbox and public inbox.
Since you are there, also reset your index and search relays to the defaults (just press the button)

2026-05-21 00:04:18 UTC

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On-chain Gays

2026-05-21 00:02:56 UTC

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Can you check if the Tor relays are connecting? We did a few changes on it and might have affected it.

2026-05-20 23:49:49 UTC

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I think the issue is that most of the calendars are not geohash indexed :(

2026-05-20 23:44:40 UTC

It's back to the basics season

2026-05-20 23:42:54 UTC

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I implemented 3 versions by now. I don't think it adds much to our use case.

2026-05-20 23:37:27 UTC

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Yes, we can do it

2026-05-20 23:30:37 UTC

Calendars are up!
#nevent1q…mhp6

2026-05-20 22:39:51 UTC

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Yeah, we know

2026-05-20 22:11:32 UTC

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Yes. But maybe you are not in the right universe, though.

2026-05-20 22:07:36 UTC

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@nprofile…0md0 says it's coming pre-installed to all Graphene OS users...

2026-05-20 22:00:07 UTC

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Pretty cool, but I can see my transactions on Amethyst so mine is better :)

2026-05-20 21:50:23 UTC

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which NIP-29 impelmentation should I use as base for mine? The spec is too ambiguous.. I need to give claude something more specific

2026-05-20 21:35:08 UTC

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one day...

2026-05-20 21:34:31 UTC

The cold wallet cabal worked so well that they scared everyone from developing and using a hot wallets that can be trully used.
Fear turns any rational decision into an emotional one. And that trully sells.

2026-05-20 21:26:29 UTC

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So, that is what people do when they take a break from Nostr... interesting... :)

2026-05-20 21:17:52 UTC

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You could just giftwrap an unsigned kind 8333, no?
You still need scanning if you don't want to lose funds, since Nostr events have the tendency of disappearing.

2026-05-20 21:15:41 UTC

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We have a Coinjoin @nprofile…ye3s

2026-05-20 20:50:13 UTC

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that's ok

2026-05-20 20:12:20 UTC

if you don't want your onchain zaps on Amethyst, you will be able to hit the zap the devs button and donate it to the devs.

2026-05-20 20:08:53 UTC

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pass it forward! :)

2026-05-20 19:40:20 UTC

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That is actually not a bad idea. Your client can just "refund" everyone.

2026-05-20 19:38:41 UTC

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What he said is that this is nothing new. It was hapenning even before we started on chain wallets because any pubkey, of any protocol, can "receive" money (money is locked to the nsec of that key), from any chain. It's by definition impossible to avoid.

2026-05-20 18:57:36 UTC

This was while onboarding a user into Primal which has the best wallet design/setup/onboarding on Nostr. This is why we had to give onchain zaps a try. Nothing is working.
#nevent1q…e0yv

2026-05-20 18:51:37 UTC

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they can just check the chain for outputs.

2026-05-20 18:49:58 UTC

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So, @nprofile…ae9u alone beats them all with onchain zaps? :)

2026-05-20 18:46:00 UTC

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tested

2026-05-20 18:38:01 UTC

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wen GrapheneOs Reverse Geocoding Services? :)

2026-05-20 18:36:28 UTC

Yes!!! finally, let's go!
#nevent1q…d4pq

2026-05-20 18:12:10 UTC

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I know.. but public key cryptography doesn't care. If you are signing for anything on the web, anyone can lock funds to you (to that key) in any chain. You really do not have an opt-out of this.
We can make a flag to check before sending that the supporting wallets can check, but it won't solve much in your case.

2026-05-20 18:06:34 UTC

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My problem with that thinking is that all private keys of all kinds, can receive funds in any blockchain. Anyone can lock funds to you in almost all chains, even frankly even banks. That doesnt mean you received them or want them in the eyes of the law

2026-05-20 18:02:23 UTC

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You can just burn them if you don't want. Some clients are already adding it.

2026-05-20 18:01:40 UTC

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Without zaps, then? I can make a setting

2026-05-20 17:53:04 UTC

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My tax agency is already looking at zaps in the lightning network. So, I am already having that fun.

2026-05-20 17:51:09 UTC

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What should nyms do then? Mix it?

2026-05-20 17:50:31 UTC

Also, they named it "Silent" Payments and not Private Payments for a reason.. Don't think for a second that SPs are actually private. It's just a hidden link.

2026-05-20 17:34:31 UTC

How is this for guidance:
Your Taproot address is derived from your Nostr public key, so anyone who knows your npub can see this wallet's balance and transaction history on the blockchain.
To preserve your privacy, fund and drain this wallet from and to non-private accounts, like exchanges. Never mix these funds with your cold wallets, and treat them as money you can lose, since anyone in control of your nsec can spend it.

2026-05-20 17:24:41 UTC

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We need a new name: zapalittlewithlargeamounts

2026-05-20 16:21:30 UTC

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Nobody likes remote signers :)

2026-05-20 16:07:40 UTC

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agree

2026-05-20 15:51:45 UTC

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Are you still using those `w` params as opposed to kind 10133?

2026-05-20 15:42:21 UTC

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agree, in and out is also an issue. I forgot to mention it.

2026-05-20 15:29:11 UTC

Maybe we should rename the on-chain wallet to "Social Wallet".. In that way, everybody knows funds here can be seen and tracked by zaps. Use to have social fun not anything else. Drain it frequently in a private way, or just send it forward to other nostr creators.

2026-05-20 15:26:33 UTC

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lol fuck me

2026-05-20 15:25:57 UTC

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Not yet, but we do support Payment targets that does include most other chains and even regular bank accounts / venmo / cashapp / etc.
They are not zaps though. We don't generate a Zap event on Nostr when that happens.

2026-05-20 15:24:39 UTC

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Silent Payments only hide the full balance. But people will still be able to collect all silent payments with a zap event and merge that into your "balance" in a similar way they do it with lightning right now.

2026-05-20 15:23:09 UTC

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It won't.. there might be a local cache to keep you happy and see the little zap icon, but nobody else will see it.

2026-05-20 15:17:17 UTC

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I think the problem is that people can see the balance if people dont move those UTXOs. Because in the end, you can get all the zap events on lightning and just rebuild a chain, since most people just re-circulate those zaps back into nostr. It's not a verifiable chain, but it is a chain nonetheless.

2026-05-20 15:14:57 UTC

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Yep, that's the way to do it. Because in the end, anyone can lock any coin to your nsec from anywhere. You can't do anything about it.

2026-05-20 15:13:05 UTC

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The problem with public key cryptography is that anyone can lock money, in any chain, to your nsec. It doesnt even matter which curve we use as Nostr. Anyone can always send you any token or coin from any chain. There is not going to be any future where that doesn't happen. And in many cases, the sender can actually proove that you are the only one in control of those funds, like it or not.
Which means that you can't disallow people from sending you money in your key in the same way that you cannot block say Iran from dusting your UTXOs with tained coins that you are forbiden to have a relationship with.

2026-05-20 15:05:29 UTC

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That's fine as well.

2026-05-20 15:01:46 UTC

On-chain zaps made me rethink about the main reason we do **zaps** in the first place.
Zaps are supposed to be for the social fun. Its purpose is to be seen, to be public. "Private zaps" make little sense because they are just regular transactions, on-chain or not. Nobody can have any social fun with them.
The goal of the "Zap" (on-chain or not) is to publicly show your fiancial support to the creator to everybody else. Now, if the fun is not there anymore or you are scared about it, you should not even try to participate in the zap economy. There are other signals you can send to have fun online, including regular transactions (the old tip jar, payment targets, etc).
For the on-chain zaps future, we need to keep reminding ourselves that feature only works if we are using it correctly: to have **social fun**. It's not a regular wallet. It's a source of fun, pride and real signals that just so happens to use on-chain money. There are multiple ways to code it, with Silent Payments and all, but the purpose is to have fun with others. It is to be public.
So, I fully support this initiative. And Amethyst will support removing anything Zap in such a way that you can just do regular private transactions if you want. You cannot control what others do, but your side will be configurable.
#nevent1q…vzau

2026-05-20 14:48:46 UTC

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yep, good option to have.

2026-05-20 14:47:39 UTC

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Agree. I don't know.. I am starting to think there is a cabal that likes to take legitimate concerns and dial them up to 11 to scare everybody from working on simpler solutions for use cases whose legitimate concerns are not applicable or are minimized. Nuanced solutions die from experts not accepting user-aware tradeoffs.
Most common cliche on this is experts forcing cold-storage solutions for hot wallets, scaring and shaming people using less secure solutions.

2026-05-20 14:24:38 UTC

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BTW, your profile picture is not available in the url you posted anymore (satellite's blossom server)

2026-05-20 14:22:16 UTC

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I might need to get my claude to walk through your client to make sure we are fully interoperable if people remove zaps from Amethyst and add the payment targets button. Where is the code again?

2026-05-20 14:07:53 UTC

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Working through it right now.. Usually we just check your own Index and Search relay lists to download these things, but maybe we need to fall back to other relays when those dont work or if the user you want to see has a completely broken outbox setup and their posts are not in the relays they are listing.

2026-05-20 13:23:42 UTC

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Is there a public api for Swaps that users can just pick a provider and they all follow the same specs?

2026-05-20 12:45:29 UTC

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yeah.. I have to still navigate the shit show of NIP-29 implementations

2026-05-20 12:09:35 UTC

GM to everyone but those who are financially incentivized to keep Bitcoin as complicated as possible so that you can never run your own simple wallet and is required to either pay for a service or use a free one that sells your data to the highest bidder through six layers of C-corps.

2026-05-20 11:44:23 UTC

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How can we make it suck less for you?

2026-05-20 11:43:06 UTC

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Work of @nprofile…wpzp

2026-05-20 11:38:34 UTC

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Yep, but nobody cares about building them. Everyone is financially motivated to keep things complicated so that companies can sell man in the middle products.