fiatjaf

https://stuff.fiatjaf.com/

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npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6

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2026-03-12 20:11:13 CET

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What do you think is being done wrong here and what do you suggest we should be doing?

2026-03-11 19:56:51 CET

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I asked for names and examples, but you gave me none.
I don't know why @npub1p23…rnl6 left, but it didn't seem to be because anyone did anything wrong to him, it seems to me that he just wasn't enjoying. It is bad news, but what can I do? I don't enjoy Nostr most of the time either. Nostr isn't an enjoyable place, it's a construction site.
I don't think Bluesky is problematic because it's full of leftists, I think the protocol is bad. If the protocol was good I would be supporting it and helping build it even if it was full of leftists.
(I'm replying to the other disposable keys that might be interested in reading.)

2026-03-11 19:35:30 CET

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Thank you for explaining. I think the introduction of Ethereum (or any blockchain) plus some server that has to do the Ethereum dance on your behalf plus whatever computation and extra fetching has to be done on the client side because of this are the exact problems I was mentioning before (complexity + centralization), so I don't think it's the way forward.
Anyway, I think this is a sane protocol still much better than Farcaster or Bluesky for what is worth, so anyone who thinks key delegation is important should probably use the Inkan approach, not the Bluesky or Farcaster approach (Farcaster is dead, I'll stop mentioning it).
Who is paying the Ethereum fees, by the way?

2026-03-11 19:30:45 CET

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You can't change tags in published events, in that particular case you just publish a new event but with different tags and it should replace the previous.
If you do something like 'nak fetch naddr1... | nak event -t status=ended relay_url' it will streamline that process.

2026-03-11 02:38:05 CET

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I've done it. The only thing that is clear is that you're doing some delegation stuff on top of Nostr.
What isn't clear:
1. Why on top of Nostr? I thought this was a different protocol. Is Inkan defined as Nostr+delegation?
2. Where is the delegation path downloaded from? What is this "cache"?
3. What is this "hub" thing? What is an Inkan Agent? Are these two the same?
4. Why do I need to be authorized?
Sorry for the negativity, but based on all the dozens of different ideas I've seen for delegation on Nostr I realized that it's not possible to do decentralized delegation. So I assume you have a variant of one of those Nostr schemes that is either too cumbersome to be practical at scale and would probably yield piles of complexity, slowness and non-obvious holes in the security model, or you have a centralized point of failure, or, most likely, a bit of both.

2026-03-10 19:58:38 CET

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Please promote Inkan as much as you want.
Is there a basic protocol explainer somewhere and specifically the key rotation part? I couldn't find it in https://inkan.cc/

2026-03-09 16:16:42 CET

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Sorry about that, I'm tired of seeing people claim Nostr isn't decentralized always for the wrong reasons and never expand on their claims.
But in your case I think you really misunderstood things. The idea of Nostr isn't that messages are evenly spread across the network. I do not believe that is the correct approach at all. Although nothing prevents someone from trying and would be fun to see more p2p spreading of Nostr events I don't think that will scale, so I wouldn't focus on it.
Instead the approach Nostr takes is to let each person publish to one or more servers they choose. Decentralization happens by not requiring publishers to be present on a central location, but by allowing readers to go to whatever location necessary in order to fetch their content.
So even if everybody is using the same relay at one point, the network is still "decentralized" as long as clients are doing their job correctly and anyone can move out of that central relay anytime they want and start publishing to his own personal relay in his basement: all their followers will continue to get his updates automatically, now from the new relay.
It's explained visually here: https://how-nostr-works.pages.dev/#/outbox

2026-03-09 15:06:00 CET

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Yes, truly shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPM_22

2026-03-09 15:00:10 CET

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They still make a profit even with all the ads I don't watch?

2026-03-09 14:44:24 CET

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Among 20+ microblogging clients there are only 2 that don't follow the promote centralized paradigms, soon to be 1, eventually 0.
So I don't get why you are spreading so much bullshit, it would be much more helpful and productive if you either shut up entirely or started speaking more concretely and directly about the problems you're seeing and the solutions you have in mind.

2026-03-09 03:00:46 CET

https://gitgrasp.com/

2026-03-08 19:15:39 CET

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Maybe would be much cooler if people didn't complain about what other people in Nostr are talking about all the time.
(I'm just kidding, the drama at least gives us something to talk about.)

2026-03-08 19:14:15 CET

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You may be thinking that everybody only reads from some hardcoded relays but that's just a weirdly common misunderstanding.

2026-03-08 15:44:49 CET

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I see some otherwise smart people promoting OpenClaw and related things, which is annoying, but I can't believe they are talking to their bots as humans. I would like to believe they only see their bots as tools. Am I wrong?

2026-03-08 15:42:58 CET

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I haven't ever seen anyone saying it is interesting, I've only seen people complaining. Who thinks it's interesting? (Not counting people who knowingly actively talk to the AI bots as if they were human, although I haven't seen these either I don't think their opinion of what is interesting counts.)
I also don't see many people using AI art avatars here, so I don't follow what you're saying.
Except for Ghibli avatars, those I see a lot indeed, but I see them in many other places too.

2026-03-08 15:38:28 CET

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I have one like that, but I had to buy it from a local hodlbod.

2026-03-08 15:31:57 CET

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Are you a fringe conspiracy theorist or a florist?

2026-03-08 15:28:44 CET

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think it's a Nostr problem specifically.
I don't go to other social platforms, except for some group chats, but I do see AI art in so many real world non-Nostr places these days. The group chats are also full of it. But it's all expected given that most people always loved horrible premade meme images before AI was a thing.
Also people talking to AI chatbots are a thing worldwide, or so I'm told. It's hard to imagine but I do believe there are millions of people who just open ChatGPT and have long conversations and find them interesting.

2026-03-08 15:24:07 CET

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Good point, but all these "devs" who are into "decentralization" and were supposed to like Nostr apparently don't give a shit about it (because their entire discourse is a lie, they don't really care about technology, they only care about what their leftist friends think of them, see for example that guy who wrote "protocols, not platforms" and is literally being paid by a platform now) and are happy with Bluesky and their lies, so who else can we target?
We can't be serious about attracting florists, musicians, serial entrepreneurs, biologists, mathematicians or milkshake producers, right?
The only other demographic I can think about are people into politics that lean more to the right, but most of these seem to in love with Elon Musk still.
We're left with the conspiracy theorists who see the threat of X and Musk dominance, like Whitney Webb and Ian Carroll joined Nostr and James Corbett mentioned it multiple times, none of them made the jump into Nostr that we needed. Anyway, these are the big guns of the movement as far as I know, so it's understandable that they didn't, but there might be smaller players who will be more interested immediately.
I guess there is the big avenue of people who just want to make a group with their friends, or with other florists, and we're already moving in that direction already with NIP-29 groups and growing support for topic, theme, niche and semi-closed relays. I'm happy about it.
Nothing prevents us from moving into multiple directions at once though.

2026-03-08 15:06:00 CET

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Really? You mean there are people who are enjoying talking to the bots? Or talking to the bots without realizing they're bots? (I think the first option is much worse.)

2026-03-08 15:05:02 CET

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Yes, we should do this. Specially now that Farcaster is dead maybe they will be interested.
The problem is that I have no idea of how their payment systems work.

2026-03-08 15:02:07 CET

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It's no different than the reply guy and reply girl phenomena, right?

2026-03-08 05:23:39 CET

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Nevermind, found it here: https://viewsource.win/npub1y0gja7r4re0wyelmvdqa03qmjs62rwvcd8szzt4nf4t2hd43969qj000ly/fips

2026-03-08 05:23:05 CET

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Where is FIPS now? Now that I was going to try it vanished from GitHub.

2026-03-07 14:31:15 CET

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Don't do this. Why try to compete with Google and make a big bloated slow thing when all I need is a simple fast app for writing text notes?

2026-03-07 14:27:57 CET

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This works great, I want to stop using the JS bloat that is StandardNotes (which is better than every other note taking app, by the way).
But the fact that this requires Nostr keys feels wrong in a way. Now I'm not sure if I should use some random new key or if I use a bunker, but then it gets slow and whatnot.

2026-03-07 14:16:20 CET

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There is never consensus about anything. Not even about the fact that the sun rises. How do you expect bitcoiners to reach consensus? The usage of the word "consensus" in relation to Bitcoin changes and soft-forks is a psyop employed by those that want to prevent changes from happening. You can agree with their motives or not, but this is just a deceitful tactic.

2026-03-07 14:00:19 CET

I am speechless.
#nevent1q…78yw
https://github.com/flox1an/oauth-bunker

2026-03-06 19:18:40 CET

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Good approaches.
Eventually it would be good to have a list of the most common of these modifiers in NIP-50 as well as a way to advertise support for them, and some convention around custom feed paths too maybe.
I @npub1q3s…d26p has wanted something like this for years.

2026-03-06 18:51:19 CET

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This is good, where is the rest of the song?

2026-03-06 03:15:00 CET

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Very good explanation.

2026-03-05 21:52:10 CET

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Follow packs are just people trying to copy Bluesky, assuming that Bluesky got more users because of that when in fact there are 32 more probably causes to explain that.
It's like journalists trying to explain why the stock market went up or down and coming up with nonsense correlations or not even correlations.
A user should probably be able to live just off of relay feeds at least for their first 6 months of Nostr, but Bluesky hasn't deployed that feature, nor X, nor any other platform (because they can't) so the people who suffer from severe status quo bias and write the manual of UX best practices will never recognize relay feeds as a cool and valid feature.

2026-03-05 15:27:46 CET

Do spells, not lists.
#nevent1q…ttmy
Maybe.

2026-03-04 19:53:07 CET

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Another bug: I'm sending some messages now and there is an error message on them. When I click the error message it displays a report of the relays to which the message was sent, but they all say "successfully" (and the relays are correct, by the way, so I don't know why I'm losing my own messages in all conversations when I restart the app).

2026-03-04 13:38:56 CET

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That's weird, but indeed I tried to open it on an incognito browser window using a VPN from the Netherlands and I got that too.
First it tells me something about verifying my age, then when I resize the window that notice vanishes because YouTube JavaScript programmers are retarded, so I'm able to click the video and it fails to play with that error.
In the meantime while I was trying to do this the other tab where I had logged in to download a harmless document decided that a couple of minutes away was too much and logged me out and I was forced to type a password again, because "security best practices".
We live in a very shitty world.

2026-03-04 04:18:46 CET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSG_JoVjgyM

2026-03-04 04:04:18 CET

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Another issue: I've closed Coop and reopened it, now I don't see my own messages I just sent minutes ago.
They're at wss://pyramid.fiatjaf.com/inbox, but maybe you're not querying that? The relay icon on the upper-right corner only shows the app is connected to wss://pyramid.fiatjaf.com, but that is different, maybe Coop is eating the path?
Or maybe that's a bug on #pyramid? I wonder if the code I have for filtering out unauthenticated requests for DMs is broken. What is the shape of the REQ you're sending?

2026-03-04 01:38:49 CET

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Clients can begin to offer a "quiet reply" mode that uses NIP-22.
Users can opt-in to that when they don't want their reply to show up on their feeds to everybody (and accept that at least for now it might not show up for the thread author either).
I would probably use it a lot.

2026-03-04 01:34:43 CET

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No, it's Mossad malware that will take control of your phone.

2026-03-04 01:32:17 CET

@npub1zfs…w445 Coop works now, I was even able to live chat with a guy who had messaged me (he was using Amethyst, so interoperability is saved), seems to be pretty good so far.
Some issues:
- I can't copy his pubkey (was going to tag him here but was unable);
- my "Requests" tab is empty;
- I have 10 random npubs sending me spam messages over and over (gift-wraps were a terrible mistake);
- when I send a message in a conversation it doesn't jump to the top;
- @npub16zs…92l7 messaged me, but his name and picture aren't shown, or maybe he used a different public key, I'm not sure;
- I didn't get the message you said you sent me some days ago.

2026-03-04 01:24:28 CET

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On https://fevela.me/ I can see 3 notes pinned on your profile, but I wish I could turn it off.

2026-03-04 00:35:02 CET

Pinned notes are super annoying.

2026-03-01 13:01:34 CET

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What client are you using?

2026-03-01 12:52:36 CET

This is already full of spam isn't it?

2026-03-01 03:56:48 CET

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I've been trying to run Coop for the past months but it always crashes. I figured I would wait for you to get it into some good state, but it didn't happen, so this is the crash I just got (after having the app load and clicking on a DM):
thread 'main' (1675263) panicked at /home/fiatjaf/.cargo/git/checkouts/zed-a70e2ad075855582/b06522e/crates/gpui/src/elements/text.rs:249:40:
invalid text run
note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace
fish: Job 1, 'cargo run --release' terminated by signal SIGABRT (Abort)

2026-02-28 05:06:08 CET

Bananânia Relay Deluxe is not open-source software?

2026-02-27 21:09:10 CET

Of course to do that we need relays that do curation of notes, likely some person who gets paid to review new submissions and makes a decision about whether to publish or not that thing, ensuring the relay feed has a high quality always.
Like a magazine of the old days.
Try the 'moderated' relay of https://github.com/fiatjaf/pyramid if you're interested in exploring that (I still must figure a way to add payments).
#nevent1q…9jmp

2026-02-27 21:05:51 CET

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This is good news for Nostr: if before you were afraid that having a single npub instead of unrelated accounts on different platforms would make it easier to link all your activity across different environments now you're not losing anything anymore.
At the same time, if you have important information to share only on Nostr you can do it using a different account each time, making the life of people who want to track you at least harder.

2026-02-27 00:02:33 CET

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Well, SMS is not part of the internet.

2026-02-26 23:59:15 CET

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Of course it's not your decision, it's not your server.
My point was deletions have a much greater chance of working if you're publishing only to a relay ran by a friendly community you're part of than if you're broadcasting to dozens of random public relays.

2026-02-26 23:55:30 CET

Finally found the original version of this.
https://cdn.azzamo.net/e7a79d5f4a15f0647cc233c454fe646e4c5fdc130ad47ba8c88d84b8aec281cf.mp4

2026-02-26 15:27:04 CET

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Maybe a ["parent", "<parent-id>"] tag on the subgroup?

2026-02-26 02:27:06 CET

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It fits so well it amazes me, given that it wasn't done with Flotilla in mind at all.

2026-02-26 02:14:31 CET

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Flotilla just assumes the relay is actual unit of the group, and each NIP-29 group is actually a "room" inside that supergroup.
It's not bad, but it doesn't have to be like that for everybody. I really wish we didn't land in a place where to have any group one had to run a server.

2026-02-25 16:16:38 CET

Hey @npub1jjn…vknm what do you think about running a one-click #pyramid relay setup hosting charging some monthly bucks? I can try to help with whatever I can. Let me know. Join the NIP-29 group at pyramid.fiatjaf.com'Tnq7x2ZTgrPZWFrC if you want to chat.
The expected revenue is between zero and a thousand millions.

2026-02-24 13:22:16 CET

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See, @npub1l3c…6vs2, there is real supply of infrastructure for hosting files, and it's -~=FREE=~- for up to HUNDREDS of 44b apps per user!
Meanwhile relays don't want to store base93-encoded unreadable blobs. Sure, they may accept it for now, but that's only because it's too much hassle for them to try to fight it, not because it's something they want. It's a flawed approach to try to build against all the incentives and still hope you'll get something that will last for the long term.
Make https://44billion.net/ blossom again!

2026-02-24 13:14:39 CET

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Wouldn't it be nice if instead of trying to shove files into events with a weird encoding you just published them to Blossom?
That way you could get a canonical hash for each app version, fetch that from Blossom servers on 44b startup like you're doing anyway, and everybody would be much happier.
Even @npub1q3s…d26p would be much happier because Shakespeare would be able to automatically publish 44b apps with a single line change instead of requiring a new weird dependency with all sorts of unknown problems associated.

2026-02-24 13:10:23 CET

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I read your report on Nostrability, but I don't understand how you're doing these benchmarks. Are you firing up the apps and measuring the notes they display? Can't be that, right? And what are those algorithms you listened. I tried looking them up but didn't get a clear view of how exactly they would work with outbox.

2026-02-24 13:07:35 CET

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But there are all these relays with thousands of random groups we're not interested in, which I think is a valid use case, people should be able to create groups in one big provider and not care about the others.
On the other hand the single relay with multiple groups we're interested in is also a valid use case.

2026-02-24 13:05:15 CET

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What about that idea of having multiple groups associated by their prefix to constitute sub-rooms? How are you feeling about it?

2026-02-24 01:38:20 CET

If you're looking for a tutorial to follow tonight or you're eager to send someone else a link for a tutorial they may want to follow tonight, here is it: https://spatianostra.com/getting-started-with-pyramid/

2026-02-23 17:53:47 CET

Make Nostr that app no one likes but everybody is forced to use: #nevent1q…dvy8

2026-02-23 16:14:23 CET

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I don't like that if I'm participating in two groups from two different relays I have to manually switch between the relays all the time, then find the group etc. I know it's early days, but did you consider a Discord-like interface in which multiple relays would be shown at the side-menu, then in a secondary side-menu there would be my groups (from my kind:10009 list or whatever the number is) and all the other groups in that same relay would be hidden by default?

2026-02-23 15:48:25 CET

@npub1f27…9swu can you create a NIP-29 group that we can join to complain about https://nostrord.github.io/nostrord/?

2026-02-23 15:34:07 CET

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On Nostr, any idea that doesn't take into account what relays are going to be used for publishing and reading is going to have incentives all misaligned and is bound to fail.

2026-02-23 15:32:32 CET

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You can definitely delete stuff. It doesn't work really when clients decide to broadcast your content to dozens of hardcoded relays, but in a setting where you're publishing only to one or a few handpicked relays as in the scenarios I described deletion would work perfectly.
The "you can't delete" stuff is more a legacy thing from 3 years ago when everybody was committing all kinds of sins when making clients. We're not perfect yet, but much better.
Many clients already have a button to delete, others should implement that as soon as possible.

2026-02-23 13:32:01 CET

"Social credit scores" are a good thing, government-enforced scores (even indirectly, as it's common these days) and the surveillance State are the bad things. They use wrong names in order to confuse everybody and you're falling for it.

2026-02-23 13:24:57 CET

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Do you hate me again? Because of Asciidoc? I thought we had a truce.
I'm not anywhere near nazist, but there are some nazis on Nostr, which is somewhat ugly, which is fine by me as long as they don't do evil stuff (communists are much worse but Nostr is also a place for them). Luckily I have just suggested ways people can isolate themselves from them (and also from you) if they want.
By the way, @npub1m4n…c2jl, I don't know of any client that does exactly what I said that is ready to be launched next week. I'm genuinely just throwing the ideas out there and hoping others will build on them.

2026-02-23 13:00:43 CET

Maybe the way Nostr can get more people is by making it a good choice for semi-closed hyperlocal mini-social-networks, like a low-effort impromptu social network for a neighborhood, a church, a school, a company, I don't know.
People could join this just because they have to if they want to get news about their community and stuff like that. They won't regard it as a global social network, they will keep using X, Instagram etc, this will just be an annoying app they're forced to use.
How to make it work:
Some conscientious member of such community would set things up, spin up a #pyramid relay or something like that that would provide an exclusive space for this community. Then he would use a client that supported such mode of operation to send invites to other members.
Upon receiving the invite (the invite can just be specific for that client, no need for a standard here) new users would have an account created for them and be thrown into a prepared environment in which the only feed would be that relay's feed, search would be scoped to that relay, replies and mentions would only be sourced from that relay. There will be no spam, no Bitcoin, no bots.
Luckily it's easy to turn an existing kind 1 client into a client that supports this mode of operation (some are already almost there), so if you're a developer reading this here are some ideas to consider implementing:
- making relay usage highly configurable (allow users to be set up to only read mentions from their "read" relays ever, only publish to "write", only search for specially designated "search" relays etc -- this could be optional);
- supporting relay feeds alongside the classic "following" feed;
- hiding the "following" feed entirely if the user doesn't follow anyone (or having an option to hide that regardless);
- maybe allowing other customizations, like changing the UI colors and whatnot;
- supporting an invite flow that allows some community leader to prepare the invites and then sets up all of this stuff automatically for people who get the invite.

2026-02-22 15:44:22 CET

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I think you're conflating Nostr and Amethyst.

2026-02-22 04:35:28 CET

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I had never seen that approach suggested.
It's a pretty good idea.

2026-02-22 04:34:20 CET

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Another issue: can relays be really "dumb" in the way you're implying? I don't think so.
If a relay should just accept anything without filtering (as long as the publisher pays, in your model, if I understand correctly) it would be exposing itself to hosting all kinds of sordid, illegal content, or perhaps just content they really dislike and are not ok with hosting. That creates an enormous disincentive to being a relay.
Relays should be free to "censor" anything they want. You don't agree?

2026-02-22 04:26:55 CET

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Just to clarify here: I think we're talking about "read" relays, not "write" relays. So it's actually the reader who picks the default relays for the interaction, right? Or at least those relays picked by the receiver are the ones that carry most importance in such interactions.

2025-09-05 16:24:16 CEST

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Thank you, I've just merged it on #naddr1qq…dcht.
You're moving to that now, right? I don't think we should break the old Khatru anymore.