Last Notes
Rome didn't finish in a day
I know people think the US is doomed and losing it's empire status with all the debt and wars, yada yada... but let's not forget that most of this AI innovation was made here in the past few years. Capturing value is still what the US does best, for the good and the bad.
Amount of people shitting their pants because of on-chain zaps is ridiculus. God forbid someone attempts to make bitcoin fun, easy and useful for people. Please do carry on @nprofile…vhl6 and @nprofile…ae9u .
Nothing else has worked in the past 10 years, so maybe there isn't anything better than 2014 tech.
"poor judgement" is not an ad hominem... Personally I am disappointed seeing these kinds of 2014 era ideas implemented. Makes me glad I left
Yes. We can try to make anything besides sender, receiver and amount private if we can. But those three are public and thus traceable by definition.
you can do a crude fee estimation if you know the blocksize and have the coinbase tx, and i dunno, look at the last 5 blocks, dont even know if you can ask for that type of data from peers directly but that that point you might as well ask mempool.space on the feerate and be done with it.
But in terms of additional use? Im using that header data for something else, depending on how hard i prompt you will know soon👀
why should a zap be private? isn't it literally for signaling purposes? same as a Like?
I am the one that is always in the mud
Hum.. what's not showing? I think I can see it on the profile. It looks ugly as fuck, but it is there.
Which one of you is wearing the blue helmet?
@npub1gcx…nj5z there seems to be a small problem with the update.
The execution on an idea also matter.
I agree lots of things are bad now. But that's why we have smart folks like all of you working on freedom tech, and everyone is learning and moving quickly!
What do you mean by "not trying to fool users into thinking that zaps can ever be private"
(My question isn't about whether zaps are on or off the chain; it's a general question about "zaps")
Essentially by definition, a zap is a public announcement that A has sent X sats to B
Maybe you're saying something like this: "Given the constraint that the above announcement will be public, we want to optimize everything else (privacy, ease of use [especially for noobs], ...)"
My question is what else can I do with headers alone + nostr information? We can do OTS + onchain zap validation with headers only. But I don't think I can send without fee estimation, which needs mempool, etc..
> Well for us, everything is retarded.
#btcfail
p2p syncing of the headerchain using a table for the 2016block intervals is very fast anyway. and yeah its not even 80mb at the moment. The only problem is with web-apps, thats a bit more clunky, but mempool.space has an API where you can get the header you need based of the height in 2 calls (first you get the headerhash back, and with that you can get the header), so that also works; can't verify the difficulty(as in how high it is) that way, but the internal consistency atleast (PoW in the header hash etc).
Needing headers its a trivial problem regardless the environment is my point
I don't disagree. Our point has been that everything is bad. It's all just smoke and mirrors out there. We are just trying to pick the least bad while not trying fool users into thinking that zaps can ever be private.
Yep. I read your stuff before as well and I agree with most of it.
The difference between our points is that I am not trying to make a public chain private.
And after trying to use and in some cases even help develop all the "private" stuff out there, I ended up realizing it's all just smoke and mirrors.
You guys are saying onchain is retarded. Well for us, everything is retarded. We are just picking the least retarded stack for our specific use case.
As the "Bitcoin is Time" guy I'm all for a reliable source of time, but I'm very much against strongly tying identity to onchain transactions irreversibly.
I trust that you've read my lengthy argument against and that you will end up doing the right thing. https://dergigi.com/2026/05/20/careful-icarus/
This is a really satisfying video
"Poor judgment" can only be assigned to humans, even with today's AI.
Don't worry. I still like you.
Yep, the interesting point is that now we can easily analyze balance and not just zap flow in web of trust systems.
Maybe it can even help with key rotation schemes since now we have a reliable source of time.
I don't know where this would be useful. Maybe on .onion relays, but that creates other risks there.
Fidelity bonds have existed for a long time, and can be useful to show "seriousness". Has nothing to do with humanness of course, since bots can have bitcoin too. https://jamdocs.org/glossary/#f
Here you see Claude and I trying to organize the flow of information on Nostr so that it looks neat to you.
https://npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z.blossom.band/8f97f31a729a1d10ea4762ee6c85a59da24d3b76c157b55afe8934f255670f99.mp4
I apologize, @nprofile…9k9u
I was quite rude here
I've since changed my mind on the topic and agree with you more about on chain zaps. But, regardless of this change of mind, I owe you an apology for my tone
Unlike a lot of other debates (e.g.
BIP-110), this debate has lots of smart people working in good faith and I see lots of people changing their mind. This is bullish for freedom tech, as long as we don't all tear each other apart in the process
Yep, unfortunately lots of people think its a privacy silver bullet.
There is infinite complexity in Bitcoin "cryptoeconomic' proofs, and game theoretical assumptions and things impossible to formally prove.
ZKVMs can eventually be formally proven end to end including the compiler for Rust to RiscV etc... but I am not holding my breath.
The advantage of Bitcoin and SPV proofs, is that mortals can actually reason about these game theoretical incentives much more than they can review code, or verify formal proofs for that matter.
I'd already forgotten this shit existed.
Security by complexity. People love it.
Nothing like an Ad Hominem to prove we are in the right path. GM.
#nevent1q…4sfg
I think a main issue was opposing concepts:
- npub for building reputation
- privacy or npub
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There is now reputation with a spectrum of knowledge about how much moneys are in the npub...
Generating new npubs would be terrible.
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I must develop this idea of reputation on the bellow project, nost_pass maybe have npubs for reputation...
https://njump.to/nevent1qqsp3l986qm42z8kr3haunhjhhdm9474wr66n90l68jrptsya0h9p9qpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hsygx8lxxjqlv7szc56asrmham74l7389c4xrjq20sp96pnzautj797gpsgqqqqqqstnk8au
I led a soccer team for the graphics dept called TriangleFans 😅
I am adding it. We will become a Bitcoin node in time
You folks just just kiss already... I can't stand all this suspense and sexual tension! Make out on camera!! Come on!!
10 years drawing triangles.....oofff
Stuff every Nostr app should already have because of OTS mind you
A better version of the npub that includes your relays
Take notes and fix the nip 🙏
hey @nprofile…vhl6 what's this nprofile...? 👀 #asknostr #amethyst
I really like the calendar feature. I thought it was going to be a calendar where you keep track of your personal appointments. Didn't know it was a calendar of upcoming events that users have added. very exciting. Now we can find events in our city and other cities, good when traveling or when I'm bored
He could send an on chain transactionto your npub as an address on Bitcoin that has objectionable content embedded in it.
Worth also adding that he could do this even if BIP110 were to be adopted.
